Bad weather is excellent for coding. The darker and colder it is outside, the more we can enjoy working on what we love. You probably know what I’m talking about, because, in a recent survey, more than half of you answered that you work in IT. Well, today’s news is for you: Opera 27 is going beta.

Let’s take a look at what’s in Opera 27:

Improved navigation

Many of you have raised the issue that the navigation panel does not work with dark backgrounds, because the background was faded out to make the buttons more visible. Now, you can use the darkest possible background, and it will still look good.
opera-27-beta-navigation

Tab menu

If you look up at your browser interface right now and see more than 5 tabs open, you can consider yourself unique. Only 5% of users have that many tabs open on average. (And, yes, you most probably also have a quite new computer with tons of RAM to handle it.) We have created the tab menu especially for you. (Many users will most likely not ever see it, because they won’t ever reach the number of tabs needed to activate it.)
opera-27-beta-tabmenu

Last, but not least
There is also a long list of small improvements in this release, including:

  • Invitation to migrate your Adobe Flash from NPAPI to PPAPI
  • Addition of some APIs
  • Improvements to the shutdown functionality
  • Speech API

Although, I’m not sure why I wrote this here, since you all read the changelog, anyway.

Downloads:

The full list of fixes is available in the changelog.

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  • http://icewalker2g.wordpress.com Francis Adu-Gyamfi

    FRIST! Just couldn’t resist.

  • L33t4opera

    Thanks Helge, eagerly waiting for the Linux’s version as well 😉
    Congrats to all Team regarding the promotion Opera 27 to the beta channel!

    • Helge Andre Gjølme

      We aim to get Linux out tomorrow 🙂

      • L33t4opera

        Good to know, thanks for your prompt info Helge 😉

  • Nekomajin43

    So, you implemented a feature that nobody asked instead of tab stacking, what a lot of us asked. Strange.
    But don’t get me wrong, I know you put a lot of work into this tab menu, but it’s strange.

    Anyway, is there any chance to put that navigation bar to the top or (even better) to the side of the start page?

    • x a

      I do hope they provide a lot more nobody asked for. Because that’s the way innovation works. Not by only re-creating things people are used to.

      • Nekomajin43

        On one hand, you are absolutely right, but on the other hand, tab stacking was a really good feature, and this justification in the post is really weird.

        • x a

          I think Helge meant to be funny…

        • Nagora Nerides

          Just as a counterpoint – I absolutely hate tab stacking and never use it except when the browser accidentally does it and I have to fiddle around with the mouse to unstack the tabs.

          • Nekomajin43

            Do you use this tab menu?

          • _artem_

            opera://flags/#tab-menu

            just disable it dude and stop bitching

          • Nekomajin43

            I’m not bitching. (S)he said (s)he did not use tab stacking, but did not say anything about the tab menu.

      • pekikuubik

        Many of the features Opera Presto had are still innovative today, because no-one else has put them into their browsers.

        At this point I’m not expecting anything though. Chromium is a terrible platform to build something on the level of Opera 12 on and the current dev team is ridiculously stubborn.

    • icetom

      misunderstanding us, is what Opera does all the time since they discontinued their own browser. Its really sad that we give so much feedback and it is almost never understood. they tell us “thanks for the great feedback” and then do something irrational.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Implementing features that (almost) no one asked for was exactly what Opera did during the Presto years. And people used to like it, to find it innovative.

      And as in those times, people complains about these features. 🙂

      • Lacedaemon

        I don’t remember anyone complaining about Integrated Mail, Tab Stacking, Notes, Sidebar & Bookmarks panel, Links, Unite, Block Content, New Private Tabs, configuration and customization options, just to name a few…

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Maybe because you weren’t there ? 🙂

          I remember people complaining when Opera added mail client, saying it was being turned into a bloatware and asking how to “remove” it.

          Other features also had lots of complaints against.

          • Lacedaemon

            You were around Opera 2 or 3? Very hard to believe it. I was using O since version 3 or 4 and I always thought of you being very young of age. Anyway you can’t compare the complain magnitude and the upset of the last year that will never cease until O returns to the sanity road, with what really minor was said in the past.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            As i said a while ago, i’ve been using Opera since version 3.5x, sometime around the middle of the 1990’s and some years before this blog (and probably any other) even started to exist.

            I remember the commotion around the web when the first Opera version that no longer fit in a floppy disk was released.

            Anyway you can’t compare the complain magnitude and the upset of the last year that will never cease until O returns to the sanity road, with what really minor was said in the past.

            The ones of the past were bigger or, ate least, equal to the current ones.

          • Hecc-MA

            I used Opera between 2008 and early 2014, as main browser, secondary after the O23 fiasco. And Leonardo is right, we heard complains about every feature built in all the way.

          • normanclegg

            I started with Opera version 3 and I’ve been through everything since then including the complete code change from, what was it 10 to 11 or 12 to 13 but dammit why can’t photos on a website appear as posted and not RESIZED?

          • Nagora Nerides

            I was one of the nay-sayers over the mail client but it proved to be a great success. Mainly, however, that was because it was and is the best mail client available, not simply because it was integrated.

          • Dovelove

            And I may be one of he few that they would update it and integrate it again. It was so HANDY to right-click and send link automatically there. How soon many forget or never knew miss that feature! I WASTE time cutting and pasting DAILY now, this is progress!

          • Dmitriy

            so you say that curent default search engine is innovative (they different for all country, somthing like ads) and all users will satisfied in future with this?

          • normanclegg

            And they were ALL farking correct.
            We’ve been going down a dead end that ends with being
            a skinned version of Google Chrome since then.

        • Dovelove

          And my humorous comment get deleted cause to close to truth…seen worse on here and this will also. Didn’t need duplicate comment anyway.

      • Nekomajin43

        Well, tab stacking was one popular feature asked here by those 5%. They decided to give us something, but not what we asked? Okay, it’s not a bad feature, I admit it, but come on!

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Ok, some people here seem to have asked for tab stacking but we are an insignificant amount among Opera’s users.

          • Nekomajin43

            Yes, but they implemented this feature for us, the 5%.

            Don’t get me wrong, I, mostly, like the path Opera walks on in the last few month. It’s just really ironic that they highlight the advanced users in this post and they announce a feature that nobody asked (instead of a feature that a lot of us asked), and a feature that shouts to be customizable, but it is not. I am a little bit disappointed now.

      • Hecc-MA

        We judged them innovative as we found them to be useful, we will judge the same this time. It’s not innovative because it’s new.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          What i was trying to say is that there will always be someone complaining about new features as well there will always be someone complaining when that feature is removed.

      • jason

        The features Opera introduced during the presto years were USEFUL. This Opera 27 browser is a piece of shit. I feel bad for all opera shareholders the most. They’re the ones who’re losing their savings.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          A feature being useful or not is something very subjective, what is useful for your may not be useful for others and vice-versa.

          Btw, the shareholders aren’t losing anything. On the contrary. 🙂

        • Johan

          FWIW, when Opera announced the move to a Chromium base, the price of OPERA on Oslo stock exchange was 37 NOK. Today it peaked at 93.

    • Herr Pietrus

      Totally agree with the second part of your post! Navigation buttons should stay on the top!

      • Nekomajin43

        I like it more on the left side.

        • Joe Gutiérrez

          I’m sure they put the bar at the bottom because not everyone has a panoramic display; a lot of ”side-space” is needed to put the bar on the left in the Bookmarks Manager. Don’t get me wrong, I like it on the left side too.

          • Nekomajin43

            Good point. It should detect the screen ratio and put the bar to the bottom or the left side. And it should have a dropdown list in the settings to set its position manually to the top, bottom or either side of the window. This would a cool, Opera-like feature.

    • bwat47

      I doubt ‘nobody’ asked for it, I’d like to see tab stacking but the tab list is a good feature too.

      • Nekomajin43

        I did not say it’s not a good feature. But nobody asked for it in this form.

    • Gustav Ekner

      It is sad that so many features were removed, but opera did really need a better rendering engine. So when they had to remove all the features and start from the beginning, it would be very stupid to put everything from the old opera back again. Instead, they can take advantage of it. Maybe all the functions in opera <= 12 were not the best solving of different problems users have. Perhaps you have noticed that opera not really want you to ask for specific feature request, rather tell about problems that you have, or things that you think is annoying and inefficient when you browse the web. They've also made different surveys. And based on all the information they get, they can figure out even better solutions on problems. For example, perhaps they will add tab stacking, or perhaps they will add something totally different that is even better!

      • Nekomajin43

        I don’t want to put everything back, but there were certain features that were so good and unique that it is a crime to waste them. Tab stacking was one of them. And it was not perfect, but the opportunity is here to make it better.

        This tab menu is not a bad idea. But the announcement is, as I said, strange. They say that here is something nice for you (for the 5%), but no, it’s not what a lot of you asked for. Come on…

      • Jura

        I just want to search with Bing.

      • http://eliotime.com/ eliotime3000

        You’re absolutely right, bro. It’s very stupid put all back again when most of all the users of Opera does not use ALL the functions.

        At least, I posted a link related to the Opera Link and/or Opera Sync and the bookmark transfer in the forum related with Opera Link service (in Linux just allow one version, but not two).

    • pap

      I thought this Tab menu was a long awaited by me bin with recently closed tabs. I was really disappointed when I saw there my already opened tabs.
      Closed tabs still only by Extensions. ;/

      • Tim Conner

        Click the Opera button and then go to Recent tabs. Is that not what you’re looking for?

        • pap

          Yes it is, but it need to take more moves than in Opera12.
          Also for me it’s not natural to move mouse cursor to upper-left corner 😛 My primary browser is still Opera12.

    • http://eliotime.com/ eliotime3000

      I don’t use exhaustively the tabs, because I have the same memory issue with the browser performance (Opera Blink improves the performance in my Debian Jessie PC when I disable the hardware acceleration that works perfectly on Windows 8).

      However, in the experimental bookmark sync, it works. The Issue is when you gonna import the Opera 12.x bookmarks (well, you should install 1st. the O12 first and then import the bookmarks since the Opera Blink to Opera 12.x).

  • Lacedaemon

    Couple of things:

    Navigation panel: If you have your OS taskbar (my example: W7 superbar) at the bottom, you have 2 taskbars now on top of each other, which looks pretty damn awful. Worst idea of having something like that, you should have kept the original O15-O26 design, which is so much better since it is at the height of the eyes in the first place, and it doesn’t have that huge rectangular block from one side to the other.

    5% of your 50.000.000 Opera users is still 2.500.000 users which is A LOT. And using the resource hog engine that is called Chromium was not their choice, they were forced to use it and be frustrated by it. Making fun of it isn’t even funny.

    NPAPI to PPAPI: PPAPI requires tons of CPU usage compared to NPAPI and its quality is much worse, yet you are advertising it, without telling your users its disadvantages.

    • x a

      PPAPI requires tons of CPU usage compared to NPAPI and its quality is much worse

      ”Quality“ regarding which standards? The API design is of way better ”qualities“ than that of NPAPI from the late 1990s.

      • Lacedaemon

        Its video quality of course.
        https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1494758?start=0&tstart=0

        and please don’t tell me about… “security” since all the years I’ve been using it and seeing people using computers they had absolutely no problems with it. In fact, they begun having problems since they switched to Google Chrome if that tells something…

        • x a

          So let’s assume for a second, Plugins are Flash and Flash meant Video: How does the API influence Video Quality?

          The flash-integrated decoder probably will not be different between APIs used. The only difference could be caused by old NPAPI letting the plugin machine dependently paint, while with PPAPI the browser actually composes the buffer rendered by the plugin.

          ETA: You edited your original posting.

          • Lacedaemon

            No, let’s stick to NPAPI using 15-20% CPU and PPAPI requiring 90-99% CPU for the same job and not assume anything.

            Also I didn’t edit out anything, I added the url link 5 seconds after my post. (the time I needed to find the link)

        • x a

          and please don’t tell me about… “security” since all the years I’ve been using it and seeing people using computers they had absolutely no security problems with it. In fact, they begun having problems since they switched to Google Chrome if that tells something…

          It doesn’t tell anything, even if it was somehow backed by facts.

          People’s behavior is one thing. An architectural security is another – it’s objective, scientific, provable.

          • Lacedaemon

            Surely it’s scientific when Google’s Justin Schuh, Google software engineer and plugin retirement planner said: “With each step in this transition, we get closer to a safer, more mobile-friendly web.

            Oh and making the performance suffer that much (4-5 times worse), the video quality much worse, and the browser only capable of running one thing like it is a mobile phone because of hunting down… ghosts and witches (when we all know why they did that), doesn’t tell anything either…

    • András Ács

      Yeah, we all know Opera is created by a sneaky group of evil, Google-apologist conspirators. They force-feed us intentionally bad software so they can live on the energy generated by the screams of power users!

      /s

      Edit: you do have a point about the bar at the bottom, but the tone and the ‘loaded’ nature of your post (suggesting that it’s all done in bad faith) is the kind of comment that seems to be very common here and around the web actually. It’s really tiring, but it is what it is I guess. (Note to self: just ignore.)

      • Lacedaemon

        80% of my post is about the navigation bar and its flaws, trying to forestall them to not think about making it mandatory to us (as they shouldn’t do the new startpage as well), because in the last year, they are so badly unpredictable and always to the worst scenario of course that they are scary. That’s the main point of my post.

        But since you stood on one sentence about Google’s PPAPI… let me say that it’s true btw, since Chromium is all about making the Internet mobile-friendly by not giving a damn about the experience on the PC…It’s not my words, it’s Google’s people words. It’s the same thing of what video consoles did to PC gaming and to gaming in general. Mainstream console gaming targeted to average Joes (for $$) destroyed all creativity of games and the gameplay, for fancy cutscenes and constant handholding instead (see any similarities to new Opera?), succeeding in corrupting the whole PC gaming base by exporting that trash to the PC, ignoring the aesthetics, controlling mechanics and demands of that user base and the superior hardware capabilities of the PC, making that way people believe that watching interactive movies is gaming and that it always was like that.

        When PPAPI becomes the norm and you will use your browser for one thing only because doing something else would stutter the video (that’s what happens when you have only 1% of CPU usage free and the OS is trying to allocate some CPU cycles for that other task – the rest is consumed by the video- don’t ask why this is happening… Try remembering the above analogy, or the failed attempt from M$ to shove the Metro style -designed for the tablets- forcibly to our PC throat.

    • Herr Pietrus

      Navigation panel: If you have your OS taskbar (ex: W7 superbar) at the bottom, you have 2 taskbars now with almost the same height on top of each other, which looks and is damn awful. Absolutely worst idea of having something like that, you should have kept the original O15-O26 “Stash” fluid design, (which you have promised btw), which is so much better since it is
      1. at the height of the eyes in the first place (=super convenient),
      2. it doesn’t have that huge rectangular block from one side to the other, which limits vertical space even more in widescreen monitors, (which is what 99.9% of people use, right?),

      YES, YES, YES! (Because of my poor English and even bigger laziness I’d never explain it better :))
      You are absolutely right!

    • http://eliotime.com/ eliotime3000

      Sorry, but I installed both versions of Opera and the HTML5test shows as better version the 26 version and the 12.16 is actually very slow and haves very lag during the HTML5 processing. Thank God that Opera switched to Blink (if you have Debian Wheezy, Opera 12.16 is better due to Opera 26 requires GlibC 2.15 and Debian Wheezy just have the 2.13 version).

      In my case, I’m gonna update to Debian Jessie in my netbook always and when this version gonna migrate to the stable branch.

  • Zik

    Thank you for updates.

    By the way I found out strange feature of Tab Hibernation.

    If I hover on tab, which have memory usage about of 4 Kbytes, it will begin use about 10 Mbytes or more (even tab with small picture use 10 Mbyte) and it will never be hibernated again. Only if I open this tab and switch on other after 1 min it will be again 4 Kbyte.

    If I turn off tab preview this problem does not appear.

    And one more thing. Can you make keybinding for Task Manager of Opera? It very useful thing so it’s uncomfortable to use it only via menu. Or maybe I can make shortcut by myself?

  • http://about.me/redgrave Redgrave

    Please allow Bing back as an optional search engine, or the possibility of setting default any other added engine.

    • Dave

      +1 for This!! I Just freak out when google search opened instead!!

      • godutch

        I only use Bing to find google, it’s useless for anything else

        • John Boehner Vaegina

          Clearly you don’t search for porn.

      • Marc Linnemann

        And i freaked out when DuckDuckGo replaced my dict.cc search engine. Now I even can’t use the abbreviation d anymore…

        • Dmitriy

          yes, for russian user there 6 default search engine i only use 1 and only 4 visible of mine, its insane!!! i can manual delete but its to hard everytime after update search strings

    • MarkG54321

      LOL, people use Bing… Are you new to the internet?

      • http://about.me/redgrave Redgrave

        I’m around since dial-up. It’s a matter of choice and taste.

      • Kthxbye

        Lol, always fun to see the Google fanbois around

    • Biohazard

      create it your:

      http://imgur.com/tc17ml5

      • http://about.me/redgrave Redgrave

        I did but you cannot set it as default, hence you have to use b in front of your searches. Because of that, there are no more suggestions as you type your search either.

    • http://eliotime.com/ eliotime3000

      Yahoo use the same Bing search engine for the searches.

    • Veger

      And let us change the shortkeys of the default/forced search engines, so we can reuse the keys of these default/forced ones for things we actually like and use!

    • Kthxbye

      Yep, it’s this type of tedious child like behaviour which ensures Opera will forever remain irrelevant to internet users. Shame really, they had a chance to be a trusted European independent browser, instead they’ve ended up increasingly as Google bitches. I may have missed it but even in power user mode you can’t remover the Google search bar from speed dial no matter which default search engine you choose 🙁

      What a wasted opportunity..

      • Lacedaemon

        Many people here are looking forward to the Vivaldi browser from the original people of Opera https://vivaldi.com/ so you can keep an eye on it for the future. In O28 developer, they have brought back Bing after much complaining. About that annoying huge Google bar you must go to the advanced power user settings (I know it sounds even more stupid) by using the konami code as described here: http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2013/11/19-developer-update/#comment-1111087699 It’s the first thing I’ve done too…

  • SuperTommy

    I recommend buying 36 Seasons, to whoever the owner of the second screenshot is. 🙂

  • Clueless

    Yay! Is it even worse than the stable one?

  • Łukasz Janik

    Please add your bookmarks when you select directory in tabs, when you add.

  • Jyri Oksanen

    Keep up the good work. It’s still far from replacing 12.17 as a main browser for me, but it’s the one with best functionality when old Opera doesn’t work on a site well. (main problem is not having mouse gesture up for closing a tab, I just can’t live without it)

    I also know at least 2 people who would switch right away if Tab Stacking was implemented.

    • Andi Lo

      I recently switched to firefox and found this software called Stroke It for doing OS-level gestures. I’ve only used it for a day but so far it feels almost as good as opera 12, especially because it works everywhere including the new tab window

      • Jyri Oksanen

        Have to look into it. I had tried to do the same with Autohotkey, but it didn’t feel precise enough and sometimes when dragging files in file explorer it launched those gestures (although it was supposed to be enabled only on opera). Also it means I have to do all the gestures using another software and disable gesture detection in Opera.

        it’s kind of frustrating that we have very well working gesture detection where actions cannot be rebound to others.

  • SuperTommy

    “Improvements to the shutdown functionality”, is that the flag #new-shutdown-procedure? Because it is enabled in developer, but disabled here in beta.

    • Helge Andre Gjølme

      That should have been enabled I think. We will look into it.
      You have been finding a lot of good stuff for this release SuperTommy!

      • SuperTommy

        The least I can do in return for this awesome browser is to keep my eyes open. 🙂

  • David

    Yeah, more power user features like these, please! =)

  • Radik Gradenko

    Tab groups, tab groups, tab groups!

    • L33t4opera

      If you want, you can use the Group Your Tabs extension 😉

      • Radik Gradenko

        Yes, you have already said that the last time, and now I’m going to tell you again that it has nothing to do with tab groups. The tab bar will be just as crowded, except in a different order. Totally useless.

      • Guest
      • Lacedaemon

        This extension would be much more helpful if it had the option that clicking on that button would group AND close the tabs from the same domain, (since people want Tab Stacking functionality like of Presto and not this). I’m searching for something like that for a year and can’t find anything. Closest to it is Tab Close Plus https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/tab-close-plus/?display=en but it doesn’t have a button. I’ve only managed to keep the best of it (editing it) and get rid of the unuseful stuff of it but still you have to use the right-click menu and select it for it to work…

        How sad is that? T_T

        • L33t4opera

          It has such features already, you can press the extension’s button on the toolbar, and select Options, and you can see:
          – “group per domain – will group all tabs opened on particular domain”, and more:
          – “group search results – will group all tabs opened from search engine results page”,
          – “group rarely used tabs – will group tabs that you did not use within 3 hours”.
          If you have a grouped tabs already, you can click on the close button, to close them all at once, and if you changed your mind, you can press Ctrl+Shift+T to bring them back.

          • Lacedaemon

            yes I know of them options, the problem is that it groups all tabs per domain to tabs, which is not desirable. To give you an example: I have 5 tabs of sport news, 4 tabs of some forum and 6 tabs of photos (each on its domain). If I click on it it will create 3 tabs with urls for each of them which I don’t want to. I would like it to group only the tabs I’m currently on (so that I can close them) and leave the others intact so that I can continue browsing with the rest, and then repeat the procedure with the next stack of pages.

      • Krasen Ivanov

        yes, what Radik Gradenko said.
        I tried using the same type of addon, but the next day I forgot about it and never used it to group tabs really.

    • Trevor Gough
      • Radik Gradenko

        Again, this doesn’t have anything to do with *grouping*. Yes, I can sort the tabs, or close them, or overview them, or suspend them, or whatever, but that’s totally NOT what I’m asking for.

        http://i.i.cbsi.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim//2010/08/24/firefox-panorama.jpg

        In fact, this onetab stuff actually just makes it even WORSE coz it literally just closes the tab. When I restore it, sessions expire and I gotta login again and stuff. Very bad.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I wouldn’t expect it in a near future.

    • Carlos López

      +1

    • t0ken407

      I agree, would love to see it done natively. For now I use Chromium’s “TooManyTabs” add-on, it’s worked the best for me.

      • Radik Gradenko

        Thanks, I’ve tried that one. Well, it’s like disabling and re-enabling tabs one by one, so I wouldn’t call it a solution, native or not. It’s like 2 groups, but you can only browse one of them lol.

        • t0ken407

          Haha, yeahhh but for me it’s the closest I could get to FF’s grouping functionality. I’d prefer Opera 12’s tab stacking, as many others have said…but I won’t hold my breath waiting for that, smh.

  • Philip

    Speed API? What’s that?

  • Mike

    Does this come with the annoying split testing search button that you can’t get rid of? 😛

    • Leonardo Gomes

      What would be this button ?

  • Leonardo Beltran

    Well, still no “Open all” for bookmarks folders??, too bad, i will continue to ignore bookmarks and keep with speed dial groups that already have “Open all”, too bad.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I thought that was such option.

      • Sidney Guioy

        Option is available in bookmark bar but not in Bookmark manager 🙂

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Seems to be in Bookmarks menu also.

    • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

      Wait for the next developer version …

  • oic

    undo last tab close is better extension than showing tabs vertically imho

    • Leonardo Gomes

      You can undo last closed tab.

      • oic

        I don’t use those offered by opera because it requires too many clicks and scrolling. The extension are so much useful and it replicate opera 12 old trash bin feature of tabs

        • http://video-edit.ru/ Fukurokudzu

          ctrl+shift+t

  • icetom

    “Invitation to migrate your Adobe Flash from NPAPI to PPAPI” what exactly does that mean? Some versions of Flash are not recognized by Opera. Also, I have the problem hat even though opera:plugins recognized my flash, the sites sometimes “forget it” for example twitch.tv

    and why do you migrate to PPAPI? because Google wants to discontinue NPAPI in Chrome?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Because npapi plugins support is being dropped in Chromium since a while ago and soon will be kinda difficult to run those plugins in Chromium based browsers.

      Also, ppapi flash uses to work better.

    • Helge Andre Gjølme

      If you have Adobe Flash NPAPI and you go to a site with flash, you will get a notification at the bottom right telling you that there is a new flash player available.

      What do you mean sites “forget” your flash installation?
      Does flash work on other sites when that happens?

      • icetom

        “If you have Adobe Flash NPAPI and you go to a site with flash, you will get a notification at the bottom right telling you that there is a new flash player available.”

        that is not the case for me. I jumped back to NPAPI 15.0.0.246 because the newest version is not recognized by Opera, and I get no message for an update at sites with flash.

        “What do you mean sites “forget” your flash installation?”

        sometimes on embedded twitch.tv streams, i get the message that I do not have flash installed. but after restarting Opera, this message disapears and I can watch the stream again.

        • Helge Andre Gjølme

          Have you uninstalled the ppapi flash or just disabled it?

          The little dialog also saves your answer if you have answered it already, it shows up again after a day or so. I can’t really remember.

          Ive not seen twitch.tv behave that way, but I mostly watch on twitch.tv directly.

          If you find some steps to reproduce this twitch.tv problem it would be real helpful if you could file a bug report.

  • icetom

    “(And, yes, you most probably also have a quite new computer with tons of RAM to handle it.)”

    the RAM does not help us when Opera is very slow with flash and video due to the 99% CPU usage when watching HD. Its really no more enjoyable to watch HD videos on Opera. yes, i tried both NPAPI and PPAPI flash and also beta.

    • Herr Pietrus

      I must admit that Ive never checked how much CPU opera and PPAPI Flash uses while watching HD videos and I don’t know how much was used with NPAPI version, but I’ve tried to test it already and It was 75% indeed…. But I have rather old and slow Phenom X4 955

      • Gojic Milos

        What?! ‘rather old and slow’? If you call that ‘slow’, what should people with low power cpus (say in laptops) say, with literally 10-20x less performance? Your cpu, just performance wise and if it was sold today, would easily cost ~75e (and would still be better than some @80-120e cpus in many tasks, albeit being much less energy efficient) – your cpu (and i’m talking about only one core) is far more than what is needed to decode video (FHD x264 software decoded in 60fps). And that’s without any gpu acceleration; with it, you shouldn’t get anything more but a few % of cpu utilisation. Try IE9+ and see for yourself, what an activex flash + ‘the worst’ browser can do – you’ll get 4-5 times better performance from it (especially on twitch)…

    • hspdion

      Might I suggest that rather than using a web browser and flash plugin to view twitch, you use instead (1) livestreamer-twitch-gui + (2) livestreamer + (3) MPC HC.

      Always less than 10% CPU utilization to watch any 1080p twitch stream.

      • Lacedaemon

        LOL what’s gonna be next, a standalone client for watching youtube videos? And another one for dailymotion videos?… This is not a solution, I can achieve that utilization with Opera Presto, yes, the abandonware. If you watch a single twitch video @source quality & 30fps (not fullscreen) Opera consumes 73%. And that’s using NPAPI. Imagine what it takes using PPAPI. 2 twitch videos side by side means game over. Yes, that’s pure bullshit. They should fix their damn engine. And advertising PPAPI makes things even worse.
        http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1370/5117/original.jpg

        • hspdion

          I just replied to icetom’s specific issue of high cpu utilization trying to watch twitch as I previously found a nice, efficient way to watch that particular service on things like bay trail tablets.

          Don’t understand the inherit hostility towards it in your reply. You don’t like the new Opera; gotcha, cool opinion. Good number of things compared to ‘Opera Presto’ that need improving; understood. But I wasn’t really talking about all that.

          So, yes, it is a solution to icetom’s problem, not yours.

          • Lacedaemon

            there are good solutions and there are bad solutions. Yours is a bad solution. Let me remind you that twitch.tv is just another internet site that has flash videos. The high CPU utilization is not a specific problem of twitch, it has to do with how the browser performs viewing flash videos in general. You understand what you are saying here? Using another client for seeing the flash videos of twitch. He can do that with Opera Presto as well if that was the problem. And what’s is going to be next I repeat? Another client for youtube.com? And another client for dailymotion.com? And another one for every site that uses flash? I hope you got it by now…

          • hspdion

            I’m well aware of how twitch and other ‘flash video’ sites work. The aforementioned, separate-program suggestion does not use flash. Livestreamer is a utility that pipes the direct H.264 video stream from various streaming sites into desktop video players, such as VLC or MPC-HC. Its whole purpose is to enable end-users to bypass buggy and CPU-heavy flash plugins.

            Ironically, it handles all of the video sites you have mentioned: twitch, youtube, & dailymotion. If anyone else is interested, the full list of supported sites can be found here: https://livestreamer.readthedocs.org/en/latest/plugin_matrix.html

            Again, I was merely addressing icetom’s specific, stated issue with trying to watch 2 twitch.tv streams simultaneously. I was not addressing any issue regarding Opera with my initial reply. However, you do not seem to have gotten that by now.

            ———-

            “What’s is going to be next I repeat? Another client for youtube.com? And another client for dailymotion.com? And another one for every site that uses flash?”

            Welcome to the Windows 8 / 10 ecosystem, not to mention Apple’s, Google’s Android & and so on? But that’s a whole other discussion about the appification of web services.

          • Lacedaemon

            Its whole purpose is to enable end-users to bypass buggy and CPU-heavy flash plugins.

            which was not the case before Opera switched to Chromium and on-top of that started advertising an even heavier plugin called PPAPI. My point is that if you want to keep your Opera user base happy you have to fix that performance because it is unacceptable and an insult. And reverting to other clients as a… solution for doing what you should do and what was not broken in the past is an even greater insult.

            Again, I was merely addressing icetom’s specific, stated issue with trying to watch 2 twitch.tv streams simultaneously. I was not addressing any issue regarding Opera with my initial reply. However, you do not seem to have gotten that by now.

            I guess you haven’t seen my screenshot from 2 months ago in my above post… It was ME that wrote about that problem in the first place http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2014/10/opera-developer-bookmark-syncing-and-native-macos-popover-dialogs/#comment-1636234920 and this is just a re-post, so you really believe “I haven’t gotten it by now”?

          • hspdion

            Great points about the PPAPI plugin in Opera! Couldn’t agree more. +1 Vote up. If it’s broken, they should fix it!

            Congratulations on discovering the issue 2 months ago! I had no idea. That’s very impressive.

            In the meantime, though, I’m just trying to help a twitch.tv user (icetom) watch some Starladder DOTA2 games or Kaceytron, or whatever he’s viewing on there…without burning through his laptop’s battery.

  • Trevor Gough

    Why do Speed Dial folders appear so black/dark with their contents barely visible on the Speed Dial page?

    • http://gwendragon.de/ GwenDragon

      Yes, too dark to see content of folder.

      • http://vinczej.blogspot.hu vinczej

        All 27 versions are affected with this problem in the new style speed dial. I think, this should be patched before Opera 27 becomes Next from Developer

        • taneli

          27 already became “Next” (now called Beta), and this is the thread announcing it, that you are writing in.

  • ABDX

    wow, thanks opera !
    now the playback issues for embedded flash videos from the dev stream is transfered to beta…..
    https://disqus.com/home/discussion/operablogdesktop/private_update_to_opera_developer_270168913/#comment-1722388675

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      If you can’t live with bugs then dev and beta channels are not for you.

      Here’s a fixed version especially for you: http://www.opera.com/computer

      • ABDX

        Especially for me ..!!?? how kind of you.
        what i meant from this comment is why opera have problems with flash video, specially when its embedded.
        I’ve been using dev and beta streams from v.16 and only few versions didn’t have these problems. and what is that problems that keep appearing no matter how you patch it up.

    • Helge Andre Gjølme

      I can see flickering controls on blip.tv with NPAPI flash. Seems to work just fine with PPAPI flash however. Try PPAPI flash and see how it works for you.

  • Bob Tarling

    When in the speed dial screen, the slider button on my pc stays obstinately at the top, meaning that I have to use the small arrow at the bottom to slowly navigate through all of my speed dial icons.

  • http://eridani.me/ eridani

    Cool, just remember to put back the navigation bar for speed dial on the left instead of the bottom…

    • Nekomajin43

      +1

    • Gustav Ekner

      Or at least let the use choose.

      • L33t4opera

        Hi, if you want, you can disable it: go to the address bar, and type:
        opera:flags#webui-navigation-bar, press enter key, select Disabled from the drop-down, and restart the Opera.

        • Lacedaemon

          The question is though: “For how long?”
          We need a confirmation that this will be in the options or that this questionable design will be scraped for good, ’cause for Windows OS.. it’s the worst made and with very little (if not any) thinking behind it.

        • http://eridani.me/ eridani

          No, its functionality is cool**. It provides a consistent navigation flow between SD-Bookmarks-Discover. Is just that the bottom may not be the best place for it.

          Achieving the same/similar work flow maintaining the bar at the left would be awesome.

          It may not go above either because the Google search box is there already. It can’t stand at the right because is unnatural for us western people to read right->left. So its place appears to be at the left unless the search box can be merged with the navigation.
          ______________
          ** I do remember many persons asking for this behavior a few dev. releases ago, I’m thankful that Opera guys listen. Thats one reason I love Opera even after dropping Presto, they take their users seriously.

          • Herr Pietrus

            I’m afraid that it would’n be possible on the left because of the bookmark manager design. But it should stay on top anyway.

        • Nekomajin43

          Come on! You know that the flag will be removed once the feature hits stable, or a few month after at max. Disabling anything in the flags is just a temporary solution.

  • sgrandin

    What I notice in addition to a faster browser with fewer page problems (yes, I’m a glass half-empty optimist):

    – PP quality line shows the number twice, e.g. “300 300”
    – PP doesn’t take up full Opera page for no obvious reason, and the background not covered is distracting
    – PP changed to right side: why? I’ve always found that print dialogs in Windows tend to open on the left by default (how about option?)
    – PP and Print w/o scaling remains effectively unusable for a large part of my printing. Am I the only one? Why not make the print module the right way, instead of 80% of the way?
    – Start Page icon still greyed out on Speed Dial; thus if Start page closed the user either has to close and reopen Opera to get one, or open a SD thumbnail and do it from there. Easily fixed, so why not?
    – “New start page” Metro style has been widely rejected by Windows 8 users in favor of traditional desktop icons and thumbnails that vary in presentation of content; it would be very bad if that style were imposed on users
    – NY Times home page article font is so small as to be unreadable – [IMG]http://i58.tinypic.com/4uhr3q.jpg[/IMG]
    – Speed Dial now clear at top, but why not move the top row of thumbnails a half or two-thirds of a thumbnail higher, as it’s just wasted space now?
    – Opera webkit still taking up more vertical space on web pages, roughly 10-15%, than Opera 12; e.g., compare the two at http://www.rottentomatoes.com/ and http://www.dailyaudiophile.com
    – There is no way yet to put tabs at the bottom of the page, down next to the taskbar, sys tray and start menu. That’s where a lot of people open programs from.
    – There’s no way to get all the icons I need or want up on the address bar
    (will add more as I find them.)

    Page vertical and PP w/o scaling are above all what keep me with Opera 12, instead of switching over.

  • icetom

    -In speeddial, how can I move back the buttons for speedial, bookmarks and the discover (which i dont use) to the top again?
    Is there some flag for it?

    in O27beta it is at the buttom, and that is not intuitive for me, i rarely look down, only if i access speeddial bookmarks down there. I think it is better right next to the google searchbar. then you have all in one place.

    I made a screenshot what I mean:
    http://fs1.directupload.net/images/141210/rc9dofy6.jpg
    Edit: solution-> answer from Lacedaemon.

    -also, it would be perfect if there is some way to completely disable Discover, I dont want it. I do not find any flag for that.

    -In the search customisation menu, i can manually add bing, but after I added it, I cannot select it . why?
    Also, I noticed that the sending of “do not track” is disabled by default.

    • Lacedaemon

      About the 1st check in the flags for webui-navigation-bar for disabling it. If it exists… If they remove it (the flag) and don’t give an option to choose the desired position then it’s bye bye from me… To be more precise it depends on what arrives first from those: New start page mandatory, navigation bar mandatory, or blinking of new tabs gets never fixed.

      • icetom

        thanks! that was the solution to my placement-question 🙂
        to the rest of your post, i agree. I hope we can still customize it in the stable version. if not, i will switch too. i am already swallowing the “discover”-bloat which I do not want.

  • Igor Tarasov

    Well, still waiting for Linux version, but as I saw screenshot I thought that it would be nice to have in that tab list:

    1. search field for filtering.
    2. sort by tab name button.
    3. sort by url (or group by domain) button.
    4. a scrollbar (not up/down buttons only when there are too many items).

  • Felipe

    And Sync?

    • Sidney Guioy

      You can enable the flag, work as fine as in 27 Alpha 🙂

  • alvin

    First, I appreciate your opera team’s effort to improve user experience but I have to make some complain:
    – At the speedial, now we can’t arrange number of row and zoom. In the 12.17 and previous versions. I can zoom speedial manually or automatically but no matter how big or small I zoom. The search bar size still remain the same while with opera chromium, I cant set the number of column in speed dial and when I zoom the search bar and those speed dial-discover-bookmark bar’s size change as well so when it’s too small then it’s not good. You may think that ppl may create a folder of speed dial to avoid scrolling. Of course they can but someone who really don’t like to click twice or scrolling but just click once.
    – The search bar in speed dial make google search as default search engine and I can’t change it to any other ones like searching with address bar

    Personally, I would like you to bring back tab stack of old opera first than just make new feature. Additionally, in old version, if I click on the url in address bar then even if the page is loaded to the new address, the url doesn’t change so I can keep the old url while the new version don’t allow me to do that

  • zakius

    cmon guys, chropera is incredibly fast, but there is even no chrome extension working to make gestures usable…
    why cant you just do it?

    yeah, even as extension if you are afraid that people will be scared, just this thing is essential for effective use of web browser

  • http://gwendragon.de/ GwenDragon

    If NPAPI and PPAPI plugin is installed in OS, Opera finds these two!

    Please add function to Opera for automatic disabling NPAPI version if PPAPI exists.

    • icetom

      “Please add function to Opera for automatic disabling NPAPI version if PPAPI exists.”

      it seems to do that already (but not really disable it under :plugins) , at least on my machine. it only uses the 16 ppapi, not the 15 npapi – i have both on the machine.

      • http://gwendragon.de/ GwenDragon

        On my Windows 7 system there are 16.0 PPAI and same NPAPI. Opera enables both 🙁

        • Ralf Brinkmann

          On my Windows 7 system also both actual versions are installed, but opera:plugins shows only the PPAPI version.

        • Arjan van Leeuwen

          Even though both are enabled, Opera will only use the PPAPI version.

          • http://gwendragon.de/ GwenDragon

            Ah, thanks for this background information.

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            And it’s wise not to disable NPAPI version as it can be used as a fallback in case PPAPI is somehow broken 😉

          • http://gwendragon.de/ GwenDragon

            Oh, yes, as fallback. OK. 😉

  • Gustav Ekner

    Please fix the context menu (the one that appears when you right click) in speed dial, right now it has windows style, not so nice in linux. http://i.imgur.com/csj8fmG.png

  • john

    i want install a speed dial extension on opera like fvd on chrome but i can’t! why?

  • opticyclic

    It seems to be using IE proxy settings with no option to configure it manually. Is there anything like FoxyProxy that can change the proxy based on domain?

    • x a

      I can recommend Proxy SwitchySharp from the Chrome web store. You can use the fabulous Extension source viewer from Opera’S extension store to install it, I think.

      • opticyclic

        Great thanks. I installed them both but I am still blocked. I think it is due to the DNS lookups. FoxyProxy in Firefox uses something like network.proxy.socks_remote_dns=true to route the DNS through the specified proxy based on the patterns. I can’t find a similar option in SwitchySharp.

        • x a

          So you plan to use a SOCKS proxy, then?

          You entered its IP then in the SOCKS field of its SwitchySharp proxy profile (“Proxy Profiles” tab, “Manual configutation” for respective profile)? If your proxy supports SOCKS v5, select that radio button. To my knowledge, SOCKS v5 inherently provides remote DNS through SOCKS.

  • http://msftplace.com/ egarrip

    Where is Bing?T_T

  • https://twitter.com/ResnicksCity Resnick Flores

    So, this is how I see (or not see) my Speed Dial folders now: http://puu.sh/dpmC9/a15f1f5fe9.jpg I know it happens on the developer version as well but I hope you can fix this before releasing Opera 27 as stable.

    • Sidney Moraes

      I think they did that to make visible the name of the folders.

  • Gloriam

    Thank you very much for removing the white fade at the top!

    I’d like to ask, will the ‘old’ speeddial is it’s called now stay as an option? I prefer it over the newer one since it shows a thumbnail of the website instead of text or icon.

    • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

      Oh yes, and it also has specific extensions.

    • Scribe_uk

      The new Speed dial reminds me of Metro – horrible!!

      • Gloriam

        Takes the worst of Metro you could say, I personally like Metro, wouldn’t mind if they took the new layout, but implemented thumbnails and extensions if that isn’t in there yet.

        Add more customization options to the speeddial in general so we can make it more ‘ours’.

  • dflyra

    Can anyone tell me if the tiles in beta became a dark blur thing as in developer? Because I switched from developer to beta to get away from this mess. The tab previewer button disappeared from the tab-bar, although I have checked ‘show tab previews’ in the settings page. All these things happened when Opera beta auto-updated. I tried to downgrade but I got a message that I should change profile because I was installing a previous version, so I got back to the new (!) beta. The side-bar in start page became a bottom-bar and, anyway, enough is enough! I want an answer what happened and how can I cancel auto-updates & go back to the previous version of beta. What was the improvement anyway? I’m furious and I must see what to do about it!

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Can anyone tell me if the tiles in beta became a dark blur thing as in developer?

      If you mean folders in new speed dial thne the answer is yes.

      The tab previewer button disappeared from the tab-bar, although I have checked ‘show tab previews’ in the settings page.

      There never was a tab preview button. if you mean the tab menu, it will activate after you have opened enough tabs.

      how can I cancel auto-updates

      You can try this: https://forums.opera.com/discussion/comment/15176311#Comment_15176311

      If you are not using Windows, try something similar for your OS.

      go back to the previous version of beta.

      Usually deleting the folder with the newest build does the trick.

    • L33t4opera

      I tried to downgrade but I got a message that I should change profile because I was installing a previous version

      You can navigate to the Opera’s profile directory, and rename (or delete) the “Web Data” file – you should be aware, that you will need to re-add your custom search engines.

  • SuperTommy

    The old navigation panel that was on the left side in speed dial is showing in a blink of a second when you switch between old and new start page/speed dial. Easier to see if you do it rapidly.

    • Helge Andre Gjølme

      Thanks! We know about this issue, look out for DNA-30638 in upcoming changelogs.

      • SuperTommy

        Good. 🙂 While we’re at the navigation panel topic, when you are at the bookmarks, the icons in nav panel for speed dial, bookmarks and discover decrease in size. When you navigate to discover or speed dial, the icons go back to default.

        I mentioned it in dev stream, but since the bug carried over to the beta, I though I’d mention it again in case it went missing.

        • Helge Andre Gjølme

          Thanks for that. I’ve passed the info along.

        • http://alexey.shpakovsky.ru alex_shpak

          Hm, we’re actually unable to reproduce this. Could you elaborate a bit? Is there anything on your machine what could change their size at all? HiDPI, custom zoom size, etc?

          • SuperTommy

            It happens on both my laptop (W8.1) and desktop (W7), no custom zoom, just Opera straight out of the box. No DPI tweaks.

            See this screenshot for the icon issue, it’s especially noticeable on the speed dial icon: http://i.imgur.com/CYxtqic.png

  • ktxgio

    hi, this release seems good, and is “near” to 12.x releases (for bookmarks, tabs…etc)… so, from now, i want to start to try new release… hope in the future will arrive tab stacking
    For me, last true Opera browser is 12.x

  • Herr Pietrus

    Damn, I guess I made a mistake in the survey in this question about changelogs…. 😀
    Please, not his ugly buttons on the bottom! It’s so unergonomic and it looks so ugly in combination with LIGHT themes! Do you really have to add some semi-transparent background there?!
    And please, not on the bottom, it’s totally illogical, especially that there are still some free space on the top….

  • Dark Magician

    I thought for a moment you finally added recently closed tabs, like it was before.
    And I was so wrong… 🙁

    • Wando Schneider
    • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

      Opera has had a recently closed tabs menu for a while now. It’s the fifth option in the Opera menu. Please look at the program you’re using before complaining it “doesn’t have” something.

      • Dark Magician

        It’s not what I’m talking about, I’m talking about the bin, that was in place of tab menu.

        • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

          It’s exactly what you are talking about, only it is a submenu now, instead of a button. Hardly a showstopper.

          • NoName

            I used the trash way more than “Recent tabs”.
            Recent tabs is currently inconvenient.

            When doing things fast, “Recent tabs” is kind of a last resort.
            It would help a little, if we could get the number-shortcut back.

          • Dark Magician

            It slows down the process, it should be at least optional to put it where tab menu is, since I have almost no use of tab menu. I have 25 tabs open, and I can see every last one of them, and I know where is what I need.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            Everybody thinks their favorite feature “should be at least optional”. If you had to implement every one of those options (and believe me, just by the comments on this blog you’d have to implement HUNDREDS of such options), navigating the program would be a nightmare. Sometimes you just have to get accustomed to make a little bit of effort, like here, going to the menu and selecting your tab from a submenu instead of looking for it from a button. It’s click, wiggle, click instead of click, click. Not exactly the definition of hell.

  • Perryking

    What about Bing?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      It was replaced by DDG. At least for now.

      • Perryking

        Okay, but we want to choose any search engine.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          They know, it’s something asked quite often here. But it seems that we will have to wait.

  • loxiw

    A bit dissapointed, I was sure we were going to see Bookmarks Sync in 27 :_(

    • ayespy

      Uhhhmmm – we DO.

      • loxiw

        I obviously don’t mean it as a flag if that’s what you are trying to say XD

        • ayespy

          This is not a stable release. My bet is that when it is released as stable, the sync function will be on by default. It’s unreasonable to expect every function that’s being worked on to be on by default in a Developer or Beta stream release.

          • loxiw

            That’s not how it works afaik, the features they are going to implement in every major version are always enabled when it reaches the beta channel

          • ayespy

            I have not noticed that to be the case.

  • Zin

    Dont forget to bring back embedded IRC from Opera 12.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I don’t think it’s going to happen.

  • Dick

    Auto update and downloads from opera site failed.

    It seems that both the auto update and downloads from opera site redirects to http://dl-desktop.oupeng.com/pub/, which does not contain the opera-beta directory. This makes both the auto update and downloads from opera site failed. Please fix it.

    For example, “http://www.opera.com/download/get/?id=37822&location=403&nothanks=yes&sub=marine” redirects to “http://dl-desktop.oupeng.com/pub/opera-beta/27.0.1689.29/win/Opera_beta_27.0.1689.29_Setup.exe” instead of “http://get.opera.com/pub/opera-beta/27.0.1689.29/win/Opera_beta_27.0.1689.29_Setup.exe”

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I guess it redirects to the nearest mirror, which, in your case, seems to be facing some issues.

    • Marcin Mitek

      I passed your information to people maintaining our servers. Thank you.

      • Dick

        Thanks. At the moment the 404 issue for both beta and dev download link still exists.

      • Dick

        An update: Now the issue for beta is resolved, and for the developer version the problem still exists.

        “http://www.opera.com/download/get/?id=37896&location=403&nothanks=yes&sub=marine” redirects to “http://dl-desktop.oupeng.com/pub/opera-developer/28.0.1747.0/win/Opera_Developer_28.0.1747.0_Setup.exe”, giving a 404 error.

        Hope that you team could kindly fix this problem for developer version also. Thanks!

  • Not Interesting

    I’m looking up and counting 46 open tabs, plus four tab groups/stacks with 2+3+6+3 tabs in them. This is in 12.16, as the tab handling in the Blink-based Operas isn’t as good (no tab groups/stacks, no possibility to remove the close “X”, icons doesn’t show wen there are many tabs open, tab preview by hovering mouse is much better in 12.16…)

  • jho

    Now Opera 12.x will update autom. to new Opera…

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      What? Really? But these are two completely different programs.

    • voltball

      It happened to me on approx. one of six or so installations, and that was at least a month ago. I don’t think we’re quite there yet.

    • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

      You can disable that.

  • Unknown

    “Left Panel”

  • voltball

    I have two major reasons to stick around with Opera 12.17; vertical tab bars and Dragonfly. Now, I know that Dragonfly is a lost cause, which is a tragedy for me as a web developer. However, this tab menu intrigues me; because I can’t help but think this could be further developed into something useful for power users.

    For now, I guess the most pressing issue is to keep this new menu open when you try to close several tabs quickly. If I click too fast, I can’t get more than two or three tabs X-ed before the menu disappears.

    • koniiiik

      Any sources for Dragonfly being a lost cause? I still keep hoping it’ll make a comeback someday, but I’m not watching these discussions actively, so I may have missed an announcement…

      • SQL

        A dragonfly developer himself said that it does not support Chromium directly and that’s why they’re not working on dfly anymore.

        • koniiiik

          Ouch. )-: That’s really bad, I always found Dragonfly to be the easiest to use bundle of dev tools, at least compared to the native Chromium thing, Firebug, or the half-baked native Firefox tools.

          • voltball

            I agree. Though I believe that’s in part because of Operas former focus on user interfaces, more than what the tools can do. I’m trying to use the Blink tools… It’s frustrating more than inadequate.

      • voltball

        Mostly only the general user accepted “truth”.

        Semi-officially, all I can find is the first blog stating that
        Dragonfly isn’t dead: http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2013/05/opera-features-and-release-cycle/

        But that was roughly 7,4 internet years ago.

        Dragonfly is on github, and it’s dusty there:
        https://github.com/operasoftware/dragonfly/graphs/contributors?from=2006-09-10&to=2014-12-11&type=c

        For about the same stretch of time.

        • koniiiik

          Oh, I wasn’t aware that it was on Github. But yeah, looking at the repository, I suppose it’s quite obvious that the project is dead. That’s too bad…

  • Perk1

    In Opera 12 where is now tab menu we had trash can what is more useful than this.

    When we close a tab and want to back it, when we click on other tab reopen last tab is on 7th position in right click menu. If we click on empty spaces next to ” + ” (which is for a new tab) reopen last closed tab is on 2nd position. It has to have fixed position.

    In my opinion i like when open a new tab when bookmark, speeddial and discover tab where up, now is down. It has to have user choosing where to put it.

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Sell your mouse. Press Ctrl-Shift-T.

      • NoName

        In Operas 12 I could click the trashcan and press “5” to get to the 5th latest closed tab. Adding a shortcut to trash just makes it even better.

        Now I press Ctrl+Shift+T 5 times, and close the 4 first again 🙁
        This is still faster than using the current “Recent tab” menu entry.

        Both ways are slow(er).

        • Ralf Brinkmann

          Perk1 was talking about the last closed tab. This is very easy with ctrl-shift-t. If you want to reopen one of the other recent closed tabs, it needs more action. With the german version I press Alt, T, T, cursor right, then I can go up and down to the wanted entry.

          Edit: I have to correct myself. If you have pressed Alt, T, T, cursor right (or something similar to follow the menu structur in another language) you can simply press the first letter of the wanted entry. Opera will jump to the first entry with that letter. If you need the third entry beginning with “M”, you have to press “M” three times. So this is also rather simple.

          • NoName

            Yes, that’s a lot of pressing 🙂
            It’s not a big issue at all. The old way was just better (faster).

          • IllusionMH

            Unfortunately that requires layout switch to proper interface language.
            And this shortcut require to move your hand from mouse(t is to away so it is hard to press it with one hant) 🙁

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            The other way round: For really fast working everything is bad, that requires to move your hand from keyboard to mouse. I have two hands and ten fingers, but only one mouse. That is like playing with only one finger (the mouse is an elongated finger).

          • IllusionMH

            yes, every switch is great time/focus loss. But I think that comparison 10 to 1 is not correct, and really differs from program to program.

          • x a

            And this shortcut require to move your hand from mouse(t is to away so it is hard to press it with one hant) 🙁

            Fortunately, my hands are large enough to do* the Ctrl-Shift-T with my left. But I see a problem there!
            ____
            * Left hand: thumb on Ctrl, pinkie on Shift and index finger hitting the T while tilting the entire hand.

          • IllusionMH

            I’m use same principle 🙂

        • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

          Do you realize that to be able to use the numeric shortcut you must know in which order you closed the tabs, and use your other hand to press it, while using the mouse with which you have just already clicked the button is faster and less error-prone?

          • NoName

            Yes? It was in Opera 12, and i used it frequently.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            That… doesn’t answer anything.

          • NoName

            I answered “Yes” to your question. That answered anything there was to answer.
            I then added, that I have used it like that before, with success.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            Oh, I got confused because you wrote “Yes?” as if it was a question.

    • Wando Schneider
  • KjokR

    To keep Opera as light and quick as possible at startup, is it possible to get rid of default themes and how ? Where are they located ?

  • L33t4opera

    The version for Linux is already available on the ftp servers 😉

  • http://nekonyaa.livejournal.com nekonyaa

    After updating flash, youtube video playback is broken (very jaggy) when opera window is on second screen. on first screen everything is ok/

  • Paulinho

    I have 17 tabs open, ~500mb, on Opera 12.

    • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

      The number of tabs as an indicator is meaningless. I can open 50 static HTML pages and boast the low memory consumption of the browser compared to another that has one tab open, it being Facebook or Gmail or any ad-intensive page.

      Now, if you have *exactly the same 17 tabs* open in two *just recently installed* versions of Opera *with empty caches and storages* and test them *without any other applications open* and while your system is *not swapping memory to disk* or otherwise *executing secondary processes*… then give us the data. 😉

  • Druszlak

    Opera doesn’t show auto-suggestions of custom searches using keywords (like “w opera” – opera in Wikipedia) based on previous searches. I have to write “quries” every time I want to search for something.

    Opera 12 has this functionality.

    http://oi60.tinypic.com/2r7sg83.jpg

    • x a

      I don’t know, whether Opera makes use of OpenSearchSuggestions“ extension or of OpenSearch at all (an instead does a simple form snooping).

      But I know, you cannot edit the suggestion url for custom search engines from the settings UI. You can, though, editing the keywords table in the Web Data SQlite db in your profile folder.

      Regarding Wikipedia, there is another great solution – great, as it is my brain child. 😉 Use the extension ”XenoWikipedia“.

      • Druszlak

        Nice extension, congrats and thanks. But its not solve my problem. 😉

        • x a

          If you know what you’re doing (and do backups, exit Opera before editing, …), you can – as I mentioned – edit the custom search engine entry in the configuration database of Opera.

          First you have to acquire knowledge of the suitable suggest-url (should return suggestions as appropriately structured JSON data). Then you can add this to the `suggest_url` column of the `keywords` table in the Web Data database. Use the placeholder ”{SearchTerms}“ where the – tadda! – search terms should be inserted.

          If you use Windows, I can recommend a nice edit tool.

  • Filon

    The navigation panel should NOT be at the bottom. At the very least it should be an option to move it to the top or better yet, let’s use our widescreens and put it to the SIDE, where it belongs. Frankly, I don’t know who would prefer it on the bottom, but at most it should be an option, not an immutable default.

    I like the option of reopening the last tab closed. Especially since after a few days’ use, Opera tends to hang a few seconds when I open the recently closed list. Might want to get that fixed too.

    Themes are still just friggin wallpapers. It should be illegal to call them themes. 🙂

    The Opera extension store is a bit of a joke. Might as well admit defeat and accept standard Chrome extensions since they work with Opera anyway.

    And why is flash not installed out of the box? I would very much like to be able to use Google Street View without installing a separate Adobe plugin.

  • http://a026.me alper

    long live opera 12!

    • voltball

      Unfortunately, pages like google has started treating Opera 12 to poorer code. It’s spreading, so I do believe we’re loosing our favorite tool.

    • http://gwendragon.de/ GwenDragon

      Opera 12 is (unfortunately) a browser which has many problems with modern JS frameworks and on some websites with SSL certificates. The performance of JS is so low compared to other browsers. The menu UI is buggy when calling external programs.

      No, Opera 12 will not be a winner on the web, only for web achaelogists 😉
      Sad but true.
      Opera 12 is a very ill patient.

  • Elwetana

    Can I complain about downloads again? I really miss an opportunity to select Run/Open when downloading a file and not care about where is temporarily stored and deleted when I close the browser. I had to go back to IE to get this functionality.

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      If you define a standard download folder in your settings you need not search for a temporary storing location.

      • mathman

        And if I had the “Open” option when downloading a file I wouldn’t have to waste time opening Windows Explorer and going to the standard download folder I might have specified in the settings.

        • Ralf Brinkmann

          I don’t understand why some people want an option to open a file while it is downloading. I would NEVER open a file before the download process is finished and then I would check it for malware before I open it. And I don’t have to open Windows Explorer or any better file manager, because it’s always open and shows the download directory.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            So, you don’t understand why other people might have a different workflow from yours?

            It’s been more than a year since you told something like that, on the lines of “professional workers do this or that”, and I already explained to you, as a professional worker, that you should just speak for yourself, because we have wildly different ways of working.

            I am being kind of harsh because your “I don’t understand why some people…” sounds dismissive of that “some people”, like they don’t get that your way is THE way.

            Well, it’s not.

          • Vux777

            I guess for media files (mp3/4, avi…)
            you can’t open exe (some installation setup for instance) while is not finished, but you can play partially downloaded some audio/video files

          • ABDX

            what they meant is by having the open function, some files like: pdf, word, excel, powerpiont slides, torrent files, installers and some .mp4 or .wmv files that you open them once to see them without the need to be saved to your personal files. and then be deleted automatically once you close the browser or clear its cache. saving you the hassle of going to your default download folder and deleting them manually.

  • Dark Magician

    Also, YT window is still small, while in IE and FF wide window goes to 720p in size.
    I don’t understand why Opera does this, since Chrome doesn’t.

    • koniiiik

      My guess is blame it on Youtube / Google. In my experience, the size of the “theater mode” on Youtube is quite random, even in the same browser. Sometimes the size of the player remains the same as in the default mode, sometimes it stretches to the width of the page layout, sometimes I get the 720p one (although that one started to appear only recently to me), and it’s not the same for the same videos all the time either.

  • NimeshT

    After moving bookmark sync to stable channel, any plans to bringing new bookmarks to web interface link.opera.com?

    • ayespy

      I think there’s too much concern that the content of link.opera.com is likely too different from bookmark content in current iterations of the browser – and users will pitch a fit if they are merged or replaced, one with the other, without user choice or control. I suspect what will happen instead is that “Link” data will instead be made exportable/importable for a time, and then discontinued – since at the moment, Opera is running two server farms for two different forms of sync, one of which only works with a browser which will be phased out.

      • icetom

        why not just make it possible to import the link.opera data in a special folder for link.opera bookmarks? or give the user the option to add all bookmarks who are not there yet (meaning additionally, so nothing gets lost) into the already existing bookmarks on the machine.

        • ayespy

          The storage formats and sync protocols are not compatible between the two kinds of Opera – so export/import is likely to be easier. That’s my thinking, anyway.

  • principweb

    I couldn’t continue to reshape my web habits anymore. Goodbye Opera. I can easily say this after two years. Nothing worse than this. You(Opera) should become happy with your 95%. The day that they open sixth tab, they will come here and write “there is no distinct feature that Opera has, there is no reason to use Opera. Whatever people in here say will be said at that day.

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Dark the meaning of your words is. May the power be with you.

  • ayespy

    The more I try to use the tab menu, the more convinced I become that this MUST be developed to offer an option to have it open all the time, and have it “resize,” not COVER web content. C’MON! You guys are so CLOSE!

  • Vijay Kumar

    Thanks for the update.

    But I would like to see some options implemented such as-

    1. Navigation panel on left instead of bottom to save vertical space.
    2. Option to fix Tab Menu as Vertical Tab bar on left/right(both are similar IMO)
    3. As the navigation panel only has three options, it’d be nice if it was customizable, so that extensions can be placed there. So, that it can be configured to put extensions there for easy access like Smart RSS extension, etc.
    4. Remove the Recent tabs from O menu and put in place of Tab Menu or list closed tabs at bottom of Tab Menu AND an option to choose from both

    I love Opera and prefer it over Firefox(too many crashes for me) and Google(i don’t trust).
    Thanks again. Keep up the good work 😉

    • Nekomajin43

      +1

    • Sidney Moraes

      1. You can disable it in flags.

  • http://www.dailymotion.com/u2kEntertainment The Crusader

    You guys need to bring back the Opera blog, what else am i suppose to use? the blog you had was easy to work with, all the rest of them seem hard to use.

  • Keiv M. Salmon

    why did this version remove Bing as my default search engine? it completely removed it from the list of search engines i can make the default.

    I have been using bing to test how well i could get by without having to use google’s services.

    now because of this i cannot continue with this test. (and no, having to select the engine rather than it being default is adding extra steps to get to what i want).

    these little seemingly insignificant things add up.

    DAMMIT!
    sure more people prefer google but what if we wanted to customize our browsing experience how we want it?

    even chrome allows me to set Bing as default, what’s you guys problem?

  • _artem_

    it’s Friday!!! hope not the “Friday-without-weekly-dev-stream” again…

  • pantosha

    It would be a very good replace Tab Menu with Recent tabs.

  • mozzer

    Am I the only one who think, that this navigation bar:
    http://i.imgur.com/5Kj99Pf.png
    looks much better than this:
    http://www-static.opera.com/blogs/multi/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2014/12/opera-27-beta-navigation.png

    It’s soo ugly…

    • icetom

      can you tell me how to get the better looking google search bar please?

      • mozzer

        Switch to the new speed dial start page (right bottom corner)

        • icetom

          ok seems you can only get it with all the buttons moved down. so not for me, as i want my bookmark and speeddial buttons on top. but thx

    • ahoj1234

      can’t agree about “so ugly” but the “imgur’s” one is far better speaking about design, no doubt about it.

    • Herr Pietrus

      Certainly it’s not so high, so it consumes less vertical space, and it’s obvious that everything looks better than the bar we currently have in beta on the old SD page, but personally I think that the best place for navigation bar is still top of the page. Well, all other buttons, omnibox and tabs are THERE. Even left side is better than this…

      And yes, without doubt design of the first bar is much better…

      • icetom

        agree, i want the old speeddial with the new google bar – or rather customizable search bar. the random new thumbnail colors look awful. i am not planning to use windows tile style in my Opera browser.

  • Łukasz Janik

    Please add your bookmarks when you select directory in tabs, when you add.

  • AS

    Why when I’ll install Adobe Flash Player for Opera 26 the quality of films in HD on youtube losing the quality? The text is distorted. Something’s wrong with it.

  • IllusionMH

    I can’t understand: speed dial folders with almost invisible items in it is a bug or feature?

    • Herr Pietrus

      A bug.

    • KjokR

      Yes, a bug since build 1676.

      • IllusionMH

        Yeah.
        Fix is in one line in CSS. I can’t believe that it can’t be fixed for so long 🙁

  • rek

    Since we now have this button up there on the tab bar.. is it possible to put the “recently closed tabs” button right there too?

  • John Smith

    OK, so we have this weird tab menu, next step should be proper tab panel on left/right/bottom, right?

    Was not using O12 RSS reader a lot but in last few months I use it more and more. Yet another reason to stick with O12.

    Still keeping an eye on Otter browser which development activity has increased lately.

    And what about Opera Dragonfly is it abandoned?

    • http://gwendragon.de/ GwenDragon

      In Opera 27 you can use extension to get a local RSS reader.

      Otter browser is no replacement for Opera 12 or 26 at current state.

      Dragonfly is OpenSource and has stopped any development two years ago! See https://github.com/operasoftware/dragonfly

  • http://www.dailymotion.com/u2kEntertainment The Crusader

    So i ask you guys to bring back opera blog and you removed my post?
    Wow, i will never use any of your products. You just lost a user.

    • x a

      I think, it might have been a silly automated Disqus-filter, that hid your comment?

      Anyways, your reaction seems overly passive aggressive to me – and the consequences you lay out to draw not very impressive to a company providing free Software to the masses.

      • icetom

        is there such thing as a disqus filter? i doubt it because on other sites, everyone can write all kinds of swear word he wants. disqus do not even filter it if you use not-safe-for-work profile-pictures or names.

        here, off-topic posts (such as not discussing the specific version) get deleted, no filter can detect that.

      • http://www.dailymotion.com/u2kEntertainment The Crusader

        um i just requested for them to bring back my opera blog, and my comment was it said : removed . There was no good reason to remove it in the first place. But whatever i guess, peace.

        • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

          There was a good reason: off-topic (just like this whole discussion of yours was that you just started in here).
          You may happily ask for MyOpera’s return in the forums and there will be people supporting you, but this blog is about bugs and issues of Opera 27.

          • x a

            I don’t think such a selective insisting on on-topic-posting is very helpful, though. But that’s just me.

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            I’m just trying to keep this blog in some “order”.
            I guess we can all agree that focused feedback is better than ranting and throwing random topics in here.
            I want devs to come here for a reason: to perceive your guys’ feedback. So it’s in the interest of you all who want to help shape this browser.
            Dev’s time is valuable and they don’t even bother reading in here if there’s only junk.

          • x a

            Oh no’s. Not very sensible.

          • http://www.dailymotion.com/u2kEntertainment The Crusader

            You do realized that when the dev’s, CM’s or GM’s ( and btw I’m a GM for several MMO games ) ignore the community concerns things start turning for the worse. I seen too many companies and businesses and games succeed and then get shut down because the people in charge never listen to the community concerns. Take myspace for example, it was the best social networking site around years ago, when they ignored the community and change the design layout to another one, and got rid of imeem, everyone was complaining and asking them to stop, but did they listen? Nope. And well who uses myspace anymore? Hardly nobody.

            What I’m trying to explain to you and take this into consideration. When you have something great going, keep it going. You know that saying, ” all good things comes to an end” Well I’m here to tell you, it doesn’t have to be that way. One thing i notice about human beings, they never seem to want to listen to anyone’s concerns, its one of the reasons why this world that we lived in is like this, because hardly nobody cares about anything or anyone. But its all good though, good luck with whatever. 🙂 Nothing personal, just saying. Take care 🙂 If you guys do decided to bring a blog thing back, i will be back 🙂

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            As I said, you just picked the wrong spot. It’s like giving feedback for your in-car navigation system to your local grocery store clerk. MyOpera wasn’t developed by the Desktop Team. (That’s why this blog is called “desktop team blog”! 😉 ).

            That’s why stuff like this (all services around the actual browser) belong into Opera’s forums. (http://forums.opera.com) 😉

            (I’m sorry for having to delete your previous comment. I totally get what you’re saying and I largely agree with it, but it’s still part of this whole off-topic discussion that needs to die eventually 😉 )

      • http://www.dailymotion.com/u2kEntertainment The Crusader

        I decided to make a facebook page for my blog page now and checking out wordpress ,.

  • Izer0

    Navigation panel on startpage moved from left to bottom? Why? Monitors are wider rather than higher. You guys spend more time on moving bars rather than on functionality and features.

  • duhduhduh0

    Do include a search box in the Tab Menu please.

    Are you really serious that those 5% that work in the IT will spend 5-20 seconds to scroll through the list of tabs to find their tab VS trying to use some search term to find their existing tab?

  • KjokR

    Navigation panel on startpage, moved from left to bottom, is definitely a wrong idea. There is an excellent reason for not doing that. Today, if you want to go to one bookmark in the list, you have to go first to the bottom of the page to open the bookmark bar and then go back to the left to find your bookmark in your folder. This gesture, from bottom to left, is totally irrational and a waste of time which only slows your navigation. So there’s no gain to such a design, with only a useless additional gesture.

  • Pesala

    Still happily using Opera 12.17 here.

    I wonder if other browser can tile two pages side-by-side yet? This can be a very useful feature on a wide-screen monitor.

    Of course, I use Tab-stacking on a daily basis. I don’t open loads of tabs, but five is not quite enough for me. I have three pinned in a stack, and three others open.

    Customisable shortcuts are indispensable for me. Every time I install a new program, I add a mnemonic shortcut to launch it from Opera, such as:

    w, p, 8 = Execute program, “C:Program FilesSerifWebPlusX8ProgramWebPlus.exe”

    I will continue using Opera 12.17 until I can customise shortcuts. The new Opera will only be my occasional fall-back browser for sites that don’t work in Opera, and I am more likely to use Opera 11.64 or Firefox first.

    • http://gwendragon.de/ GwenDragon

      Yes something like customizable.

      Customisable shortcuts are indispensable for me. Every time I install a new program, I add a mnemonic shortcut to launch it from Opera, such as:

      But that does not work fine since years if having parameters for external progs .

    • x a

      Did you ever think of using some tool like Executor? For my part, I couldn’t live without it on Windows (I use Win+Y as shortcut).

    • Cryio

      “I wonder if other browser can tile two pages side-by-side yet”

      A feature in Maxthon for a long time.

  • pap

    I would like to see “Open in other browser” in right-click menu, as it was in old Opera.
    Also “go to the web address” uses current tab, even if I have ‘Open in new tabs” option enabled.

  • pap

    I would like to see “Open in other browser” in right-click menu, as it was in old Opera.
    Also “go to the web address” uses current tab, even if I have ‘Open in new tabs” option enabled.

    Next one is:
    – close all tabs to the right,
    – close all other tabs
    – blose tab
    But there is no “close all tabs” option

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I would like to see “Open in other browser” in right-click menu, as it was in old Opera.

      Nothing against but i really don’t see a reason to have it on Opera Blink. In Presto it was useful because you may be facing rendering issues more often.

      Also “go to the web address” uses current tab, even if I have ‘Open in new tabs” option enabled.

      Which option is that?

      Next one is:- close all tabs to the right,
      – close all other tabs

      They are already there.

      • pap

        It’s an BETA build, it’s not perfect. Stable for sure also have it’s problems.

        ‘Go to web address’ is right-click option when You select text that is an web address, but not an clickable link.

        You’re right, but there’s no option “Close all tabs”

  • dflyra

    A question about this ‘new’ beta release: does cut & paste works (in fact does right mouse button click works) for you in the address bar?

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      If you’re experiencing trouble with that, you probably turned on “experimental address bar” flag.

      • dflyra

        Thanks!

  • Jura

    Please allow Bing back as an optional search engine, or the possibility of setting default any other added engine.

  • name siname

    yoytube player bad work in Opera – the band rewind and fullscreen

  • Dark Magician

    At random when you start Opera it opens an empty tab instead of Speed Dial.

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    Does anybody else have problems with the Google search?

    Google is my standard search engine. If I for example search for “Gitzo Arca Swiss Compatib” I receive an error message:

    “The web page at https://www.google.de/search?client=opera&q=Gitzo+Arca+Swiss+Compatib&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&channel=suggest&gws_rd=cr,ssl&ei=MDWMVKONHcjqOJzUgZAO may be temporarily unavailable or has been permanently moved to a new web address.”

    If I clear the browser cache, I can just do exactely one search, if I do a second one I recieve an error message again. Disabling all extensions didn’t help.

    • x a

      I get that a lot for Google as well as other HTTPS sites. Instant “reload” works around.

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        Reloading doesn’t help here, but you seem to be right: If I change the “https” in the address field against “http” the page loads. I found this behaviour only with Google, not with other https pages.

        • Ralf Brinkmann

          I must reply to myself (so Opera will hopefully read it).
          I have tried out the same thing with Google Chrome, Firefox and Waterfox, all with and without the same extensions and settings. They all work fine, only Opera has problems with https in the Google search. I didn’t change anything. It’s the standard Google search that comes with Opera. So I hope this can be fixed for the next Dev.

          • Herr Pietrus

            Damn, I’m almost 100% sure that I’ve experienced the same problem in version… hmm… 20 or 21… trying to search anything was horrible!

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      You need to disable opera://flags/#enable-spdy4
      It took me weeks to figure that out…

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        Great! It really works! You are my hero of the day. Thank you!

        Opera, write this into the help file, please.

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        It’s crazy, today I have the same problem again. I think it’s time to compare. If I enter “http” into the “experiments” search field of opera:flags I see the following results:

        “SPDY/4” = disabled
        “Simple Cache for HTTP” = Standard
        “Allow insecure WebSocket from https origin” = disabled
        “Minimum SSL/TLS version supported.” = Default
        (What is “default”? I think it should be TLS 1.0 or TLS 1.1)

        Anything else that is important?

  • Lacedaemon

    Coming back with a favorite…

    Ctrl+B adds a page to the Speed Dial…
    Ctrl+D adds the page to the Bookmarks….
    … … . . .

    Does this in any human way make any sense to you?

    In a sane world, other than Opera,
    Ctrl+D is for Speed Dial and
    Ctrl+B is for Bookmarks.

    At least rename Speed Dial to Speed Bial and Bookmarks to Dookmarks!
    I mean… really! How much insanity more?

    • x a

      Oh come on. Command/Ctrl+D has been the canonical shortcut key for adding a page to bookmarks since at least the Netscape era.

      It was probably chosen as a mnemonic for “aDD”.

      • Lacedaemon

        guess what, Netscape is passé these times (NPAPI) and new generation doesn’t even know what this is so that’s not an argument. Besides canonical doesn’t mean shit to Opera which has Speed Dial AND Bookmarks. Just because it is your habit doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be sane and up with the times, it is 2015 in a few days. So… D is Dial, B is Bookmarks. The other way around is insanity. It’s a new browser after all that has burnt all the bridges to its past so that’s one reason more.

        • x a

          [Edited: @Lacedaemon edited his post, to which I wrote the following answer extensively – there is no good debating that way.]

          Guess what, since then every other browser resorted to the same shortcut.

          And guess another thing: Every change in shortcuts (and elsewhere) leads to an outcry!!! amongst users. Hint: Just refer to this blog.

          • Lacedaemon

            Very thin arguments. You don’t seem to understand that Opera has Speed Dial AND Bookmarks so their shortcuts have to be as senseful and clear as possible for the user and that the browser itself is a reboot that doesn’t want to stick to the past but is looking far more for new users. And new users understand one thing: D for Dial, B for Bookmarks. So what you are saying is very weak.

          • x a

            [Edited: At the time of my reply the @Lacedeamon’s post in its entirety was:

            Very thin arguments.

            He modified it extensively afterwards].

            Are you kidding me?

            Does this in any human way make any sense to you?

            It makes sense. I explained it to you. Stop pretending to be stupid.

          • Lacedaemon

            It doesn’t make sense, it’s a relic from the past that has no value whatsoever and the argument about how people will cry is so moronic, so don’t pretend to not be a moron.

          • x a

            Stop editing your comments after someone has replied! It’s an unfair habit.

          • Lacedaemon

            I didn’t edit squat, you are full of excuses because your arguments are damn weak and your calls to mama or to other users (3rd person reference LOL – what are you a child?-) makes you even worse, like people care about what you or me are saying…

          • x a

            I didn’t edit squat, you are full of excuses because your arguments are damn weak and your calls to mama or to other users (3rd person reference LOL – what are you a child?-) makes you even worse, like people care about what you or me are saying…

            I care about manners or absence of those. Thus your ad hominem attack as a full quote, before you edit it at random.

          • Lacedaemon

            Oh come on.

            This was YOUR ironic/sarcastic attack to a very valid point I made, so don’t even try to teach me manners…

            and here… I’m quoting myself to “edit-secure” my post…

            This was YOUR ironic/sarcastic attack to a very valid point I made, so don’t even try to teach me manners…

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            I deleted some comments now as it turned into a private feud. Don’t waste your breath trying to teach Lacedaemon manners, x a. I gave up on this some time ago…

          • Lacedaemon

            Sorry mate but a “Oh come on” respond is a personal insult full of irony, wanting to diminish someone’s personality, instead of confronting an opinion with (valid) arguments. If you want to talk about manners, then at least you must be fair in the first place.

          • Lacedaemon

            I wrote the same thing twice because you seem incapable of understanding what I’ve said, and to use your words… stop pretending to be stupid.

        • hafasd

          Every single hotkey should be modifiable by user, not hardcoded. That is the problem.

    • L33t4opera

      Hi, you can rebind them as follows:
      1. Go to O-Menu > About Opera > Paths > Profile, and copy the path to the profile, close the Opera, open Windows Explorer, and paste the path into the address bar, 2. Open the “Preferences” file in your text editor, and add the first 10 lines, as shown below:{
      "Keybindings": {
      "Basic": {
      "AddToBookmarks": [ "Ctrl+B" ],
      "AddToFavorites": [ "Ctrl+D" ]
      },
      "Settings": {
      "AdvancedEnabled": false
      }
      },
      3. Save the changes, and close the file, relaunch the Opera (the value of “AdvancedEnabled” should be “true”, if you use adv. keyboard shortcuts).

      • Lacedaemon

        edit: it’s not working, the preferences file gets reverted to its original state, without those entries. Trying it with my O25 stable. If I set it to read-only it renames it to Preferences.bad, tells me the file is corrupted and creates a new one.

        Thanks L33t, you rock as always. Of course apart from that need of editing, I was also trying to make a point if you know what I mean. Imo Speed Bial and Dookmarks sound great 🙂

        • L33t4opera

          It works here. It looks like you made a mistake in the syntax, are you sure that you have added the whole code, exactly as shown above – all of the curly braces, and the commas: at the end of rows 4 and 6, and the last line as above?

          • Lacedaemon

            yes, everything, I copy-pasted them all. Always reverting back to standard. It doesn’t accept anything to be added 🙁

          • L33t4opera

            Could you paste e.g. the first 16 lines from your Preferences file, please?

          • Lacedaemon

            Solved. It works ONLY if you delete the original lines and paste the new ones. You forgot to mention that 🙂
            {
            "Keybindings": {
            "Settings": {
            "AdvancedEnabled": false
            }
            },

          • L33t4opera

            Ah yes, sorry about that, I should mention that if you already have such sections as above, then you should edit it to be the same as above, and do not add them again 😉

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      You know, I would agree with you more often if you knew how to communicate properly and politely…

      • Lacedaemon

        It’s more important that you agree on the core and that you have the ability to strip it from the wrapper instead of paying attention to formalities and propriety. Besides, it’s been 1 year and a half and that post perfectly addresses that issue with the appropriate -and justified-irony… I mean how long does it take for someone to figure that the above shortcut-matching is out of place? People think Bookmarks -> B , Dial -> D. The other way around is simply “wtf…”
        Besides, I find Speed Bial and Dookmarks really funny, they sound really stupid and get the point there much faster than any description 🙂

        P.S. I know you want to upvote that post but you are afraid of being and showing not socially/morally “correct”, but I know that deep inside you, you agree with me 🙂 That’s all that matters.

        • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

          Actually, no, I don’t.
          While I get your point and it would be more logical, I’m with x a on this one as every other browser out there has Ctrl+D for bookmarks and you obviously underestimate the effort of re-learning shortcuts. If you always bookmarked sites by pressing Ctrl+D, you’d start shouting, too, if it was changed into Ctrl+B all of a sudden.
          Maybe it’s easier for you to understand if I’d request Ctrl+S for Speed Dial… Wouldn’t you start screaming?

          • Lacedaemon

            It’s another thing re-learning things that make no sense at all and another one re-learning things that are perfectly reasonable and people can instinctively associate with the logic behind them, instead of what they were used to be. So the effort required is very little, because there is firm logic behind it. And since Ctrl+S is reserved for “Save”, you have to stick with “D” for Dial, since “B” would be for Bookmarks.

            edit: Plus as I’ve said before, Opera made a fresh start, a reboot, with the intention of attracting and understanding new users foremost, and paying most of their attention to the feedback they get from users that are using the web for the first time instead of hearing old farts like the old “Presto” users, so they don’t have to follow your logic “because every other browser out there has Ctrl+D”

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            It’s another thing re-learning things that make no sense at all and another one re-learning things that are perfectly reasonable

            Only because things make sense to you, doesn’t mean they do for anybody else. e.g. “Bookmarks” are “Lesezeichen” and “Speed Dial” is “Schnellwahl” in German. What’s intuitive about Ctrl+D and Ctrl+B now?! It’s just re-learning shortcuts for nothing.

            Ctrl+S is reserved for “Save”

            Yes, and Ctrl+D is reserved for bookmarks. That’s what I intended to say.

            intention of attracting and understanding new users

            … who are coming from a different browser where they used Ctrl+D.

          • Lacedaemon

            Only because things make sense to you, doesn’t mean they do for anybody else. e.g. “Bookmarks” are “Lesezeichen” and “Speed Dial” is “Schnellwahl” in German. What’s intuitive about Ctrl+D and Ctrl+B now?! It’s just re-learning shortcuts for nothing.

            First of all I said:
            “It’s another thing re-learning things that make no sense at all and another one re-learning things that are perfectly reasonable and people can instinctively associate with the logic behind them, instead of what they were used to be.”
            If you want to respond to it, respond to it as a whole. I didn’t just write “reasonable” so that you can claim it’s just reasonable to me.

            Secondly… whatever you want to prove by that has totally failed. Computer technology is an English world, so everything that is designed is coming from there. PC = Personal Computer, e-mail = Electronic mail, Browser = Browser, A stands for “All”, S for “Save”, dir = directory, cmd = command, taskkill = task kill, runas = run as, TCP = Transmission Control Protocol, UDP = User Datagram Protocol, sorry for your… “Lesezeichen”… it just doesn’t matter. Your argument is so weak but you still are mentioning it… do I need to name a hundred more commands and technology acronyms and words? You even use “download-en”, ‘upload-en”, “stream-en” “browse-n”, “mail-en” in your language, instead of your native words, “click-en”,… , “server”, “slave”, “master”…

            Yes, and Ctrl+D is reserved for bookmarks. That’s what I intended to say.

            and yet you don’t seem to understand what I’ve said about the fresh new start and reboot of Opera and the targeted people. People who have no idea about computers in the first place. People who are interested in shopping lists, cakes and recipes.

            … who are coming from a different browser where they used Ctrl+D.

            Wrong, there are aunts, uncles, mothers, fathers, little sisters, little brothers, etc, that every day discover the Internet for the first time. And if their surrounding/Opera advertising told them that Opera is an easy and nice looking browser they start with it. It’s what Opera does (see previous paragraph).

            And then there are those that by coming to Opera they can understand why it’s different, since Opera is the only browser that has native Speed Dial AND Bookmarks.
            Besides, which is applicable to both groups, there’s already Ctrl+Shift+B for managing Bookmars in the Opera menu, Ctrl+B is the natural thinking for marking them.

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            I officially give up. You just don’t want to understand.

          • Lacedaemon

            Same here. Even after demolishing your weak arguments it seems so pointless arguing with you. That failed german language reference though gave me a good laugh I thank you for that.

  • Dark Magician

    Task Manager needs summation of memory usage.

    • David_Gould

      Late versions of Opera 12 have a resources page which show memory and CPU usage per tab. Would be amazing to have that.

      • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

        Opera -> More tools -> Enable developer tools
        -> Opera -> Developer tools -> Task Manager

  • Роман

    Мне не нравиться что теперь эта панель снизу. Сейчас у большенства широкие экраны, и место по вертикали и так мало. То шапкой сайта перекрывается, у кого-то ещё и панель Windows внизу находиться.
    Уж лучше расположить панель по бокам.. то есть как было. надеюсь хоть дадут пользователю возможность самому выбирать где её располагать.

    Рекомендации я бы вообще убрал или спрял, опять таки дал возможность пользователю убрать/добавить пункт в меню.
    Пункт “экспресс-панель” и так есть в панели после клавиш назад-вперед-обновить.

    Просто в угол загнал бы “Сердечко-копилку” и пусть оно там никому не мешает

    Кстати “назад к старой начальной странице” мало чем отличается от нового формата. смысл тогда от этого “уголка”?

    Ещё бы я строку поиска в speeddial уменьшил и поднял чуть выше.

    Боже. Дайте пользователю всё это менять самому, проще будет

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      English in here, please. Devs don’t understand what you’re saying. So don’t waste your time writing in other languages.

  • kapsi

    Suggestion: after opening bookmarks page, auto place text cursor in search box.

  • kokolo5

    It’s funny how i wished that Opera should integrate a chat feature in the browser and now Firefox exactly do this with “Firefox Hello” (; + they integrate video chat.
    Opera also should do this.

    I hoped that Opera will inovate the browser scene, but it looks that you must wait for Chrome and their desicions and in future others will rock the market or even Chrome itself.

    How Opera want bring unique innovative features ? I hope you make an own fork of the bling engine and can distancing yourself from Chrome (:

    • David_Gould

      Don’t integrate bloatware. Make it optional via extensions.

  • Guest

    Just try to concantrate on knowing non-opera users instead of existing opera users.
    Believe me, many of them waiting for more integrated bookmark solutions
    like sync and bookmark menu like firefox and chrome to switch to opera.

  • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/12/czech-jewish-tefillin-_n_6310952.html Seems to keep reloading every so often, even tho I am not reloading hte page manually, causing a CPU spike from Opera

  • Tim Conner

    I would also like cast my vote to bring back tab stacking. I miss it everyday. I currently have to use different windows instead of stacks and it’s difficult to manage.

    • Tim Conner

      Oh, and bookmark nicknames. I use to just type fb to go to facebook.com and such.

  • https://vivaldi.net/unity/profile/chas4/6-blog Chas4

    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/12/from-the-wirecutter-the-best-external-blu-ray-drive/ leaving that sitting nearly all day, and the tab is using 1.8GB of Ram & 110% cpu spike (page is stuck with reloading icon on tab)

  • ORC

    I love how you devs TOTALLY ruined that little wonder that was Opera 12. I’ve been using Opera for years, and am now forced to use Firefox.

    • David_Gould

      Opera 12 hasn’t changed. The internet ruined it and your implication that Opera Software should spend a fortune updating a free Opera to fit a non-standards-compliant internet just shows how little you appreciated it.

  • Dovelove

    Win 7 64 Bit 8 gig

    I DON”T know how to start this without getting into trouble somehow. I guess I’ll start with the main purpose of this forum.

    I am PRESENTLY surprised and please for those of us that are the 5% that have more than 5 tabs open. I had accidentally loaded the 12.17 Opera the panels all neat and organized with a search popped up and made me LONG for the old days.

    Was coming to this website to make a comment to find that a BIG main complaint of mine was corrected somewhat. Looks like FF and other I guess that is the great Mao military plan (all look alike) because the millinials can’t think or read..need GUI’s. [ And I don’t need flaming on that! You need to READ before opening mouth, books on using google etc. so much we are giving up our ability to actually think]

    Then I was going to make a comment on Duck Duck go default search, plesently surprised.

    Neeless to say If you don’t come to this site very often changes DO come so I guess be patient.
    The screen rendering in Opera ( and I couldn’t for the life of me can’t explain) just seem so more VIBRANT. When all problems are caught up and then you go back to leader and innovator that everyone else follows I may come back.

    Don’t know if this is my setup or not I don’t have the time to take HOURS to play with these new updates (and JUST got this one) have a LOT to learn. I have to log on to Discuss Opera with FF cause I DON’T want to manually look up log that ought to show up with Opera. FF the bubble is there and open I set up Opera LONG before FF.

    Overall VERY positive Opera much to do, but getting there!

  • dflyra

    Do you have a rational argument to move speed-dial/bookmarks/discover buttons in the speed-dial bottom bar instead of the side bar? Because it is aesthetically bad and functionally worse, since we use wide screen monitors and we have plenty of vertical-side areas but we lack in horizontal ones. Do you have in mind to put something else there, because I find no other reason for this ‘development’.

    PS. To everybody in this forum, as I see it: O12 was a revolution in browsing, a masterpiece in customization & functionality, a wonder of innovation & aesthetics, a software miracle (11 mb with everything out of the box + mail client) having only some compatibility flaws and, sometimes, strange behavior, but we are not there any more! There is no point in going back, lets improve what we have. And what we have is a good, solid & constantly improving browser!

    Update: The speed-dial/bookmarks/discover buttons in speed-dial bottom or side bar was fixed – it is simply a matter of a flag setting (webui-navigation-bar) as indicated by L33t4opera. It means that we need more help with flags (experiments), or else we’ll raise up issues that do not really exist, as myself here!

  • Dovelove

    For humor comment to lighten things up… please don’t kill.

    One thought.
    I can see this coming after reading these over the years….. When the great “Google GOD” engine is blah-zey and OLD SCHOOL, won’t it be GREAT to start the whole
    ” We have to re-make the whole system over again” CxzP !! 🙂

    Only THEN WILL THE GEN X’ERS AND MILLENNIALS UNDERSTAND. Cause they will be the ones bitch’n.
    And I’ll sit back in my rocking chair laughing and drooling on myself. 🙂

  • sgrandin

    A strange thing the last several hours Sunday morning is that 27 beta will not open http://www.yahoo.com, while 12.17 has not had any problem with it.

    The other thing is that clicking on the Start Page icon from any web page is bringing up the Speed Dial, not my designated start page, yahoo.com. Don’t know if this is related to the loading issue, although it’s not obvious since the SD is coming right up.

    Update: Yahoo is now opening, but in win 8.1 Task Mgr, opera beta shows 8 entries, just on the home page – and that’s just after opening!

  • Dark Magician

    Move back bookmark and discover to the top of Speed Dial, it’s unpractical for it to be on the bottom.

    • L33t4opera

      Hi, please have a look here 😉

  • http://colector.ucoz.com/ Cristian Trusca

    Thx this new version 27 fix the 2 display Opera menu that go to the second monitor instead to be in the same monitor were Opera it is.
    Now the Opera menu shows in the same display again cool and keep it up :))
    Now I need to wait for the stable version of Opera 27 🙂

    • http://colector.ucoz.com/ Cristian Trusca

      This: DNA-11411 Opera menu opens on the top screen with vertically stacked monitor setup
      fixed the menu to show up right were opera is no ?

  • dg2014

    Just tried this latest version again.

    Still no click on current tab to bring last one into focus.

    Bookmarks are still a mess.
    Cannot import direct from Presto. Has to be a html import.
    Cannot sort the individual folders.
    Dragging a folder onto the Bookmarks Bar and then opening that folder from the bar, there is then a considerable delay until it opens. Cannot not be sorted alphabetically.

    On Ebay when hovering on the alternative views of the item, the image will not load until clicked on and then there is a delay whilst loading. In Presto it is immediate.

    The bookmarks alone make this unusable for me, so it is back to 12.17

  • sgrandin

    I’m coming across a lot of examples of pages where the text is very small, sometimes so small that I have to stick my nose to the computer to read it (I wear glasses for reading, but my eyesight is 20:10 uncorrected). For example, the top entry at http://forums.opera.com/categories/en-opera-for-windows – both the Announcement and Closed underneath, then the text itself, including opening the thread – http://i62.tinypic.com/30w2hqh.jpg

    • http://gwendragon.de/ GwenDragon

      Then you have to set your minimal text size in Opera.

      1. Call Opera’s settings with Alt P
      2. Go to category Websites
      3. At “Display” hit button “Customize fonts…”
      4. In appearing popup window scroll down to “Minimal font size”
      5. Increase size by drawing slider
      6. Confirm with button “Done”
      7. Restart Opera

      • Herr Pietrus

        That’s how it worked in old Opera…
        But that’s strange, I don’t have such small fonts… What is your DPI settings and screen resolution?

    • http://gwendragon.de/ GwenDragon

      Do you use a screen or tablet with high resolution (HiDPI)?

  • http://eliotime.com/ eliotime3000

    The Speed Dial remembers me to the old-style speed dial of Opera 12.16.

  • Dovelove

    Why make any comment about program at all if King is going to only alloy those he likes. If you MENTION FF or Opera 12.17 they will throw it out.

    • ayespy

      Which, of course, is why there are multiple references to both of these things on this page alone.

  • Anton Chelnokov

    i like it ^_^

  • Kurt Zon

    hate the wait for twenty eight 😉

    • Lacedaemon

      You ‘ll have to wait until at least one week before the 12th of January 🙂

      • Leonardo Gomes

        For the beta, maybe.

    • icetom

      i wait for thirty eight.

      • Lacedaemon

        hundred and eight here. We got pinned tabs, (unfinished) bookmarks manager and tab menu in 12 versions, so 3 unique “user features” per 12 versions means we are hopefully going to get about 20 more (unique) “features” until then. Not bad. Of course 1+1/2 years for 3 features means in 10 years from now.

  • http://flesheatingbug.deviantart.com/ Som

    Are ye ever going to fix the dark folders on the speed dial, it’s the final straw that will make me switch to something else (ironically a feature introduced in opera 14)

    http://imgur.com/sqyXkzC

    You’ll Notice it’s near impossible to use it the way it is now

    • Herr Pietrus

      These black folders are in EXPERIMENTAL, UNFINISHED new speed dial page. Of course if any other browser already has a speed dial extension with tiles – switch to it…

      • http://flesheatingbug.deviantart.com/ Som

        Which is why I hoped it would be gone by beta, experimental is meant to be for developer, thinking of switching back to 12

        • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

          This flag is off by default in beta. If you switch it on, then it’s your fault and not Opera’s. You should switch to stable channel. Not Presto.

          • http://flesheatingbug.deviantart.com/ Som

            Maybe lower the caps there your coming across quite aggressive. Firstly the point of developer releases is to point out the faults, which I did and which has been in this version for a while. Secondly I reinstalled the beta, with a new clean profile and the problem still remains. Thirdly rather than saying that everything is my fault and this apparent flag is off by default you could tell me which flag it is and I could check it and fourthly I prefer presto , it was better and I can use it if I want to

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            Sorry, some guys in here are driving me bonkers. I fixed that.
            The flag is opera://flags/#experimental-start-page

          • http://flesheatingbug.deviantart.com/ Som

            thanks for that, unfortunately that’s not what I meant. I’m aware of how to turn off the new speed dial, that’s not the problem, i actually like the new speed dial. It’s the folders shade in the speed dial that’s bugging me, too dark to see the dials which makes it useless… i’m sure it’ll be fixed down the line

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            It sure is, if you complain about not being able to read your stuff and switching to another browser. You shouldn’t be beta-testing then…

          • http://flesheatingbug.deviantart.com/ Som

            I was gonna leave it at that but that last comment annoyed me. If you can’t take criticism then maybe you shouldn’t be a moderator. Again I’ll point out to you that beta testing is for finding faults and reporting them…

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            I didn’t see any criticism in there and reporting errors is what this blog is for, but I tried to point out the fact that you threatened to ditch Opera because of an experimental feature. And by doing this I came to the conclusion that you shouldn’t be using dev and beta versions. Cause there is a perfectly readable final speed dial. That’s all.

          • Marcin Mitek

            New Speed Dial experiment was dropped and disabled on beta. We gathered the feedback and data, further version will come with different improvements and design, we will try to come up with some other ideas.

  • ruduh

    One simple question: how I can select all the bookmarks in BM to drag/copy them to another folder?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Ctrl+A?

    • SuperTommy

      You can enable #bookmarks-multi-drag in flags.

  • Gitai

    Bookmarks bar still not synced 🙁

    • ayespy

      Weird. Mine is.

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      Turn opera://flags/#synch on. It’ll sync then 😉

  • Gitai

    I see! this must be the reason then. Thank you.:)

  • AS

    Hi, plugin PPAPI from Adobe Flash Player (newest) is breaking the quality of films on youtube in HD quality in the newest Opera 26.0.1656.32, film played in HD quality losing the quality and available inscriptions in the film are losing the quality the font is losing the quality through this plugin. Hasn’t this problem in IE11, you can check it? I’m just report it that in Opera 27 wasn’t this bug.

  • frank

    we want back opera link from opera 12.xx!

  • http://gwendragon.de/ GwenDragon

    On Ubuntu 14.10 with ffmpeg (2.5~utopic~ppa1) MP4 videos have slower sound resulting in deeper voices of speakers.
    I use the PPA ppa:samrog131/ppa
    See http://linuxg.net/how-to-install-ffmpeg-2-4-2-on-ubuntu-14-04-linux-mint-17-elementary-os-0-3-deepin-2014-and-other-ubuntu-14-04-derivatives/

    Opera 27 + Debian testing (8.x) and ffmpeg 2.5.dmo2 from deb-multimedia.org works fine without lowering sound.

  • firuz-7

    please do uvidomleniya to save password opened in the upper left corner of the page and translator and was also to expand Kaspersky was and could swing with chrome web Sided and when it will be for windows Opera x64, Just all browser switch to 64-bit version, and I would like to have my favorite browser Opera also switched to 64-bit, and if I can not difficult to find out why the expansion of Kaspersky does not work on Opera.

    • Norman Clegg

      WHY CANNOT PHOTOS APPEAR AS POSTED.
      STOP RESIZING PHOTOS you bastards.

      • Norman Clegg

        LOOK AT THIS IN CLASSIC OPERA and in the new

        shitty googleinspired crappy Opera.

        LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE dammit.

        http://lj.lk.net/?count=250&refresh=no

        • normanclegg

          Even scientifically we need photos to appear as posted and NOT resized by Opera.

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            When you learned how to communicate properly, you’re welcome to come back here. In other words: Stop calling people names and writing uppercase, please.

      • normanclegg

        And what happened to OPEN IN A NEW TAB and OPEN IN A BACKGROUND TAB?
        What is wrong with the Opera Team now?
        Skinning Chrome it seems.

  • Andrey

    How to disable “Opera’s fraud and malware protection” in current beta version?

    • myoperaexile

      As far as we’ve been told so far, there is no way to disable it in Opera itself.

      Instead, you must block the Opera browser’s access to the sitecheck2.opera.com address. This can be done either by:

      1) Faking the lookup in your WindowsSystem32driversetchosts file (e.g. by pointing it at your localhost 127.0.0.1 if you don’t run an HTTP or HTTPS web server); or by

      2) Blocking outgoing connections with a firewall rule (currently the DNS lookups resolves to 185.26.182.115 for your firewall rule but this may change at any time).

  • firuz-7

    please do uvidomleniya to save password opened in the upper left corner of the page and translator and was also to expand Kaspersky was and could swing with chrome web Sided and when it will be for windows Opera x64, Just all browser switch to 64-bit version, and I would like to have my favorite browser Opera also switched to 64-bit, and if I can not difficult to find out why the expansion of Kaspersky does not work on Opera

    Adobe Flash Player 16.0.0.235 PPAPI for Opera and Chromium me on this plug-IDM-internet download manager for all sites intercepts and offers to download the video automatically please correct it and make it to the expansion was in opera: // extensions

  • rabe85

    A Bug:
    I can’t click on the star of the actual day, old days work: http://www.mindfactory.de/Highlights/Adventskalender2014

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      I can. But the actual day is already open. I can try tomorrow morning again.

      • rabe85

        Mostly only the image will be marked and sometimes i get a white half transparent overlay without the form fields.

        • Ralf Brinkmann

          Does your cursor change into a hand? Any blocking software?

          • rabe85

            The cursor is a hand on mouseover, but not after the click on the star.
            I’ve only the extensions “Download Chrome Extension” and “Classic Tabs” active, nothing more.

            The old days work fine, thats the curious thing…

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            I will try it out tomorrow in the morning with the new star.

            Edit: Just tried at 07:38. The same as yesterday. The star was already opened (I could not see the number, only by hoovering over the stars), but I could click it and see the content.

  • NicolaMantovani

    will Opera PLEASE STOP removing Bing as my default search engine when using the address bar??? I can’t even set it manually now, this is borderline retarded…

  • L33t4opera

    New update – Opera beta 27.0.1689.33, and the change log 😉

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Menno! Ich hab’ doch eben noch geguckt! 🙂

      English: Menno! I’ve watched it just now!

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Unfortunately the https-problem with the Google search is still there, but ok, it’s the last friday before Christmas…

  • Fallon

    About the following remark in the article, concerning the Tabmenu:

    -Quote- ‘If you look up at your browser interface right now and see more than 5 tabs open, you can consider yourself unique. Only 5% of users have that many tabs open on average.’ -end-of-Quote-.

    If you would make Opera a more complete browser, with Tab options like:
    -‘A useful Session Manager, like the one by Michael Kraft for Firefox’,
    -‘Speed Dial Folder links opening in a new Tab’,
    -‘Multi-row Tabs’,
    -‘Switch to last selected tab when clicking current one’,
    -‘jump options after closing a Tab’,
    …then it would be easier to start Opera with more Tabs open.
    Not to mention other possible improvements.
    For now Opera performs Useful but not Special. An Extra in a movie.

  • Guest

    Returp flat style express panel!!!

  • Dennis

    Dear Opera’s Developers! Return FLAT expess panel style !!!

  • David

    What happen to the shortcuts keyboard. I like the 9.2 shortcuts for navigating links opera 27 does not appear to have real ones working just the generics. It is great the the bookmarks are kind of back.