Hi!

Another developer channel update lands today. This is in fact a beginning of the stabilization process, so the list of changes is quite lenghty, as we want to fix as much as possible before switching this branch to beta. Apart from bug fixes, there is a new Chromium 43.0.2351.3 in this build. I should also highlight, that we solved the issue with infinite loading of page on Windows XP – if you were among the affected by this bug, you can safely update to this version. You can read the detailed list of changes in our changelog. Linux builds will be available in 32 and 64 bit this time. Have fun testing!

Known issues

  • No incremental patch this time for Windows – sorry 🙁
  • Linux version has higher number, but contain no extra fixes

Changelog and download links

Marcin Mitek

Tester on Windows platform @ Desktop Team since 2012. Based in Wrocław office. PC gaming enthusiast. Commutes to work on his fixie, Killer Bee.

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  • L33t4opera

    Hi Marcin, thanks for the update and fixes 😉

  • Dima S

    Not sure whether this is a suitable thread, but how can recent job cut affect Desktop Team?

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    What will Vivaldi write about Guinnopera!? 🙂

    • Marcin Mitek

      I promise I will change my photo once I get a haircut. Which is today after work 🙂 So expect the new one soon 😉

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        Not for me! I like it. But you now, what these “Chropera-Haters” write about party people. 🙂

        • Marcin Mitek

          BTW that photo must be 6 y.o.

  • SuperTommy

    DNA-37211 Enable Trash flag on all channels
    Better hurry fixing this oversized undo button then! It doesn’t fit the list view 🙂
    http://i.imgur.com/YukYQxs.png

    • Marcin Mitek

      Yikes, good catch 🙂

    • L33t4opera

      The “Undo Delete” doesn’t work if the opera:flags#trees-in-bookmarks is enabled, and when it’s disabled, it seems to work, but not quite properly, because it restores the item to the “Unsorted Bookmarks”, instead to the original folder.

      • Vux777

        I was just about to ask what is the case with that button…

  • Utkarsh Sharma

    Stable 29???

    • Marcin Mitek

      Soon.

  • Wando Schneider

    Marcin, the problems related to font loading/rendering on the bundled pdf plugin will never be fixed? 🙂

  • Zik

    Thanks for update.

    DNA-37057 Update sidebar API to latest specification.
    Is it sidebarAction.setBadgeText() or something else?

    • L33t4opera

      You can move (drag and drop) the icons of the extensions on the SB 😉

      • Zik

        It was enabled in previous version already. >_>

        • L33t4opera

          It’s good to know, I haven’t tested it in the previous build 😉

    • Nekomajin43

      setBadgeText is working since the first v30 build. 🙂

      • Zik

        I have no idea then. TT

  • Gúgolplex

    Opera for Windows is 64-bit?

    • Vux777

      nope

    • L33t4opera

      For now it’s 32-bit, but “We are working on it.” – the source link.

  • deus-ex

    Sidebar is hidden after every start-up. This is broken since three releases of the v30.xx branch.

    • Matheus Bombonato

      Same here. And it’s width also reset every start-up.

  • cxpfhrvd

    GoodBye Opera,

    I am moving to SlimJet Browser, it is block WebRtc leaks and Canvas Fingerprintings.

    http://www.slimjet.com

    • 5gdev

      See you later in Opera 31 stable

      • Licaon_Kter

        Do provide a link where they said they will fix those in Opera 31. 10x

    • Guest

      that looks super bloated yo

  • 5gdev

    Great. Getting better every release. Thank you

  • Vux777

    DNA-37209 Sidebar keeps popping up by itself ☣
    and other way around..it’s closing by itself

    • Any more details you could provide? Are you using clean profile, any particular extension, do you have sync enabled?

      • Vux777

        -I’m using mostly my extensions, but in developer mode (from local HDD)
        -I was mentioning some details in this post
        -No, it’s not clean profile, I’ll reinstall and test it with clean, and post result here in couple of days

        -I turned off sync because messed my bookmarks…not sure if it happened after that

      • Vux777

        it happens with the clean profile too

      • Vux777

        I think if extension have window resize listener it will cause this problems (in some cases).
        For instance, when firing extension from SB, sometimes it would close immediately, until I din’t put delay on setting resize listener (1 sec) so that it doesn’t listen while extension is opening (and thus resizing window).

        • Could you send us minimized version of extension on which you are able to reproduce this problem? I’ve tried adding window.addEventListener(“resize”, …) on different parts of extension and didn’t manage to reproduce the problem of sidebar closing by itself.

  • inDigazzZ

    I can’t drag’n’drop bookmark from one folder to another.
    Bookmark ‘freezes in the air’ after droping.

    http://imgur.com/ZG6vGFu

    • SuperTommy

      Disable #trees-in-bookmarks in flags.

      • inDigazzZ

        thnx

  • Data Keeper

    Another unusable release. I do not know why each new tab should start with Idle process priority. The opera could not load it when CPU is 100% busy with other process. If process priority is Normal (8) it load web-page immediately. The all latest operas (after 29.0.1795.14) works only with process explorer and set manual priority to normal level. Please fix this. I have win 7, i7 processor and SSD HD. Computer is almost 90% loaded as rendering machine and the old opera and chr-Opera from v 25.0.1614.71 till v 29.0.1795.14 works fine in this situation.

  • Zik

    Still ~20-30% CPU usage in opened Opera blog tab.
    http://i.imgur.com/DnqDFJt.png

    • mb

      Can confirm this on Windows 10 x64
      http://puu.sh/hmZxt/d374d9f5e2.png

      • Zik

        Well, I have Win 10 TP too. Build 10049. What build you have?
        Maybe this is a key of problem?

        • mb

          Might be. I checked the % CPU on Opera Beta 29/Windows 8.1 x64 and it didn’t have this issue.

        • SuperTommy

          No such issue on Win7.

          • Gustav Ekner

            Not in Ubuntu either

        • Matheus Bombonato

          Win 10 – 10049 here too and I have the same issue.

          • Matheus Bombonato

            The problem seems to be related to the disqus comments. I removed the iframe node of disqus comments and the cpu is now normal. But goes high again after reload the page.

    • Lacedaemon

      Send it to Microsoft as a report. You are using their Beta OS.

  • Amr Bamaea

    Flickr no longer works ?

    (Grass could be greener on this side)
    You seem to be using an unsupported browser. To get the most out of Flickr please upgrade to the latest version of Chrome,Safari, Firefox, or Internet Explorer.

  • Krisztián Nádor

    Opera is always in the foreground, so i cant reach the taskbar withour resizing or minimizing opera. It’s a problem since 3-4 builds.

  • Licaon_Kter

    And now forced bookmarks-backend SpeedDial on Linux x64 too.

    Let’s see ( besides this http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2015/04/update-opera-developer-30-0-1833-0/#comment-1968702127 ) how it behaves when using it as Opera-devs want me:
    *No close button on individual pages in a saved speed dial folder ( yeah I can right-click Close but that’s ANOTHER step back ).
    *No thumbnails for pages in a saved SpeedDial folder ( that’s ANOTHER step back ).

    • bwat47

      “*No close button on individual pages in a saved speed dial folder ( yeah I can right-click Close but that’s ANOTHER step back ).”

      This does not seem to be intentional behavior at all, it looks to be a bug and I can reproduce this bug here.

      It actually only appears to effect specific speed dials within a folder, rather than any speed dials within a folder (specifically, speed dials that are using the text based thumbnail images), so a possible workaround for now is to use the heart menu and choose a thumbnail instead of a text label. I recorded a video demonstrating this here, you can see that dials inside the folder that use regular thumbnails show the close button on mouseover, but the text based dials don’t. I reported this bug to opera as DNA-37599 and sent them the video

      video here: http://youtu.be/qx_btmqzwDU

      • Licaon_Kter

        When you right click on tabs -> Save as SD folder you CAN’T choose thumbnails and I won’t choose thumbnails for 40 tabs anyway, it should be done automatic like it USED TO BE DONE. The backend can do it but it’s not wired like it should, it still defaults to that text, it should be a user configured setting at least.

        • Licaon_Kter

          oh, looks like I have a close button after all, sometimes on all pages, sometimes only on the first two and sometimes none at all.

  • Rade Martinović

    Creating new folder from Heart menu does not work. I have reported this, but I did not had any feedback

    • rrzepecki

      We have this logged internally here… It should be fixed soon ( I hope ).

  • ayespy

    Updated to this version. Thanks. Sync is still FUBAR. I went in to one of my other versions and repaired my bookmark files yesterday, only to find today that some of those changes are reverted (not many thank God), and that, to make matters worse, an entire folder full of bookmarks has now vanished from the Linux version. (Folder still there – no bookmarks in it.) C’mon guys – you can do better than this. Still no other speed dial from any other machine is visible at this Lubuntu box.

    • Sync server doesn’t remove any entities on your own so your problem with vanished content is really surprising. Could you try to reproduce it?

      • ayespy

        “we’re not sure how that tsunami wiped out your town. Could you try to reproduce it?” Not sure I can. Not sure I know how. Not sure I want to.

        Sequence of events was these: I turned on sync on the new Lubuntu install and over a day or two, it synced some 2/3 or so of my bookmarks, but many of them in wrong folders. I kept checking my other versions on other machines, and they never changed. The Lubuntu install also never changed. So, I straightened it up. Big mistake, I think.

        I had been using Bookmark Favicon Changer extension because I can’t stand the amount of room labels take up on my bookmarks bar, and I preferred a custom favicon to NO favicon (ie none provided by site) on the bar. It was working famously – SO famously that every time I installed a new Opera and synced it, my label-free shortcuts, complete with custom favicons, would show up in it. But I was concerned (since the folders were in the wrong order and bookmarks were in the wrong folders, plus two folders were missing, that the lack of labels might be confusing sync (though it never had before). So I labeled the folders on the bookmarks bar.

        I also opened another ver. of Opera and was gratified to find the labels eventually appeared in it. I waited another day to see if the Lubuntu install would pick up the changes.

        It didn’t. Instead, the labels vanished on my other installs, The folders were moved to incorrect locations on the bar, bookmarks were duplicated in some folders or appeared in two or three folders at once, and a list of 50 sub-folders in one folder was also added to another.

        I put everything back right again in my “primary” install, labeled the folders again, and waited again. When I checked this morning, still no labels in Lubuntu, labels gone in Windows again, and now the 50 folders that had been duplicated in Windows were completely gone in Lubuntu. My windows bookmarks bar, at the moment (because I added the labels again) has 22 favicons and five labeled folders. In one folder are 19 sub-folders with as many as 30 bookmarks apiece and in another are 50 sub-folders with 1-15 bookmarks apiece.

        In Lubuntu I have 11 favicons and 5 folders. The first 4 folders are the same as on Windows (except no labels) and the fifth – the one that is supposed to have 50 subfolders, became empty this morning and remains empty. My intent has been that my Lubuntu install look like the Windows one. I’m terrified to make any changes on it because then EVERYTHING in the Windows installs changes.

        EDIT: After about four hours, there are now labels on my Lubuntu folders. There are no more bookmarks in or out of folders (still just 11 favicons) so one folder that is supposed to have seven bookmarks in it still has only one, and the folder waiting for 50 sub-folders still has none.

  • Robert

    Found a bug. There is no View Password in Saved Passwords dialog.

    Windows 8.1 x64

    • Marcin Mitek

      Yup, confirmed.

    • PaulW

      Yep. Win 7 64 bit as well.

  • latest stable Opera takes all my memory hostage. If I leave Opera open for an hour my PC can’t function properly. I have to restart. to set memory free.

  • Why are half the emojis broken on this site? http://getemoji.com Seems to work fine in other browsers.
    EDIT: In current versions they are all broken =

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Because you use Windows 7? Did you read and try out this sentence: “Using Windows 7, Chrome, or an older Android version? Try

      • I am using windows 8.1. So I guess it’s a chrome thing?

        • Ralf Brinkmann

          I’m using Windows 7 and I have the same result in all browsers: Chrome, Firefox, Waterfox, Vivaldi. If I switch to Emoji Classic it works everywhere.

  • Zin

    Opera still needs to improve a bit on this http://html5test.com/

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Yep but 523 points is no that bad.

      • Marc

        Latest Opera Dev version shows 529 points and the latest Chrome Canary version shows 526 points… http://imgur.com/ynJ1hRa

        • Leonardo Gomes

          This build shows 523 here. May the results depends also on the OS and/or computer specifications.

          • Hecc-MA

            Or on flag changes.

  • ayespy

    Oh, my merry hell. Just turned on another windows machine and got two of the three copies of Opera synced. The third stalled and the sync icon showed the little red x “something went wrong.” I signed in again and all was well. Went to the Lubuntu machine and opened Opera, little red x for the first time, “Something went wrong.” Signed in, and now ALL MY MACHINES HAVE DOUBLE AND TRIPLE BOOKMARKS, some folders labeled, and some not! Am I being punished for something?!?

  • ayespy

    OK – so I just corrected the bookmarks on the primary machine, it’s perfect again, and now sync deleted all the folders (folders only!) from all the other machines. I am SO going to hurt someone any minute now…

    Edit – no, it actually removed five favicons from the Linux box and three from two of the browsers on the Win7 box.

  • ayespy

    Stupid me – thought I would try signing out and back in again on the Linux machine, and it multiplied all its bookmarks on all the other machines. Just shoot me now.

  • ayespy

    This is insane. If I sign out of sync on any machine and sign back in again, it adds all of my bookmarks to every other machine AGAIN, EXCEPT THE LINUX MACHINE, which can send its bookmarks, and its deletes, everywhere, but apparently can only receive deletes, except rarely. NOW, by signing out and back in on my primary browser, I have managed to double or triple everything on it and every other copy of the browser on all machines, EXCEPT THE LINUX ONE.

    Edit: Linux is now receiving some bookmarks and folders. If it ever finishes getting them all, I’m DISABLING SYNC on it. Why? because if it has ONE copy of something, and I delete a duplicate on another machine, the ONE on the Linux machine is lost. These sync servers are psychotic.

  • ayespy

    OK. I’m signed out of sync (possibly forever) on the Linux machine now. I have multiple copies of everything on it and I will weed them out. I have a total of 11 copies of one version of Opera or another installed right now on a total of four machines, and the Linux machine (since I signed out and back in on the primary browser) now has seventeen “Other Speed Dials” on it (after it couldn’t receive ONE in the prior week). It has between one and three copies of every Bookmarks Bar shortcut, two copies of most folders in the bookmarks tree, etc., etc. I’m leaving it at that. Like I say, I’ll weed out the extras with sync turned off. Similarly, with my other machines, I will carefully delete one extra copy of a bookmark at a time and see what impact this has on other copies of the browser, until all of the Windows machines are properly in sync again.

    Thank you for bearing with me through the saga of the bookmark sync debacle.

    • Nerdebeu

      I know your problem. It is absolutely terrifying and I was close to suicide last week. Now, I do not try anything. I make sure that the favorites are properly on my main machine, and I will remove anything about the others, even if there are 12 copies …

  • kabforks

    “Loading….” sounds familiar? All my new tabs opens a blank page, and not the speed dial. A restart of the browser temporarily fixes the problem, but it returns pretty fast. Annoying, to say the least.

    • duhduhduh0

      happens to me SO DAMN FREQUENTLY!!

  • led9ru

    How to remove this message?
    If you press this button, the search system changes, I do not want that.
    http://fastpic.ru/view/59/2015/0423/f9b08ff69d182d007970dab6ec299239.jpg.html

  • kokolo5

    Opera i don’t know what you plan. But Vivaldi Tech now has a very cool webmail https://webmail.vivaldi.net – like you had with MyOpera Mail. I hope you have exciting things in preparation.

    • Guest

      Now? Wasn’t that available even before the arrival of the Vivaldi browser?

      • kokolo5

        Yes, but it has a new design now. My point is: Vivaldi brings everything back what many users loved about Opera. Now they brought a very good replace for My Opera Mail. And the browser itself will also bring many cool stuff.

        So i’m concernd about Opera and wonder what they will do to keep its users?

        • DataZByteS

          They dont have an immediate issue. Vivaldi UI is very clunky and unresponsive. The ui flow and overall snappiness of Opera is leagues ahead of Vivaldi.

          Once they reach parity, then there might be time to worry, but I dont see that happening any time soon.

          • Vux777

            Vivaldi UI is very clunky and unresponsive

            My thoughts exactly
            And I don’t understand ppl who saying how fast and responsive it is… probably because of initial hype
            Looks good and promising, but not comparable (yet) with big players (and Opera is one of the big players, no matter how much dev’s are trying to change that ツ…ohhh )

            …and now comes comments like “but it is in alpha stage still!”

          • DataZByteS

            Credit where its due, the tab tiling and tab stacking is a nice thing to see.
            I use both at work and at home. Both computers are as fast as you can go without selling your kidneys.
            There is a very noticeable lack of responsiveness from Vivaldi when comparing them side by side.

          • Marko Koivuniemi

            Vivaldi has tab stacks which was The Feature for me. But I agree that at this time Opera (Developer) is my main browser.

          • DataZByteS

            Stacks and tiling are very useful. But they have to sort the snappiness issues out, and I seem to have issue with too many items on speed dial so items start overlapping.

            If anything some competition is always good, opera team seems to have started moving faster as well. At the end of the day the end user will gain the most.

          • Marko Koivuniemi

            Yes. Team is moving faster, sort of. At least in Oslo. https://opvard.wordpress.com/2015/04/21/goodbye-opera/

          • Lacedaemon

            “The desktop team in Oslo has been shut down”

            wow

        • Hecc-MA

          No Last Pass, it’s out of the question for me.

    • oCircuit

      I can’t register there /:

      • Dark Magician

        Just register on Vivaldi community, and use that username and password to login to mail.

  • Alex

    Basically the Bookmarks Page is empty and adding a bookmark doesn’t display the name properly. I can access bookmarks from the Opera menu though. I haven’t changed anything to settings and I haven’t disabled/enabled any flags. Does anyone know what the problem might be?Maybe a new flag enabled by default?

    I posted on a previous build as well, but I’m still having problems with Bookmarks. Anyone else?

    Adding a bookmark: http://tinypic.com/r/6h0u4g/8

    Bookmarks Page: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=jjl9op&s=8

    • Fra

      I have an issue creating a folder when adding a bookmark: it does not work. Already reported several time. Win7 x64.

  • Hecc-MA

    Move 29 to Stable!!

    • Vux777

      …leave 29 alooone 😛

      • Hecc-MA

        Nooooope!!

    • Lacedaemon

      yeah move it, I have auto-update disabled. Tab-blink safe.

  • Łukasz Darzki

    Can Opera be forced to save files using original filename extension? .psb and many others are renamed to .bin

  • ayespy

    And so THEN, having fully and properly synced all my bookmarks on six different versions of Opera on two Windows towers, I hauled out my Win7 laptop and opened Developer (up to date) on it. It had a similar, but not perfectly “standard” set of bookmarks on it. I logged in to sync, knowing I would probably have to clear out some duplicate bookmarks. The FIRST thing that happened was, my five folders on the bookmarks bar were collapsed into three folders – more exactly, one folder stayed the same and the other four were collapsed into two. NONE of the labeled folders, and NONE of the bookmarks from all of my other versions of Opera appeared, but HOWEVER, all of the now-corrupted version from this machine were added to the other versions of Opera on other machines. So – instead of adding the standard version to this machine on sync, sync first corrupted this version and then propagated it to all other versions. So now I’m trying to figure out how to get the standard version on here, so I can delete the corrupted version from all machines.

    Wish me luck.

  • ayespy

    So – I can’t explain all of the weirdness that accompanies syncing a machine to a group of already-synced machines, but I can explain some of it.

    First, why it collapses folders into each other – can’t explain that. Second, why it re-adds all of the bookmarks of a particular instance (say, instance “a”) of a browser, and propagates these to other instances of the browser every time you sign in from that instance “a” again, can’t explain that. Why every time you sign in newly it creates a new instance of your speed dial on every other machine – that’s probably related to the replication of bookmarks in general every time you sign in.

    But why it adds one direction and not another, I think perhaps I can explain that. Sync is an incredibly slow and low-priority activity – and takes essentially FOREVER, UNLESS there are changes to the source instance of the browser. Any change in the bookmarks of any instance of the browser wake up the sync servers and propagate that change IMMEDIATELY. If you are sick of waiting for it to sync a particular bookmark to another instance of the browser, simply move that bookmark and “Poof!” it will instantly appear at the other end of the sync pairing. (I can sync an entire folder of bookmarks this way in 3 or 4 minutes rather than waiting half a day or a day.) If nothing changes, though, the state of one browser will take hours, even days to appear in other instances of the browser. The problem with my Linux machine appears to have been that it has a “sleep” function that I can’t figure out how to adjust – and it’s a pretty short window. So if I don’t work continuously on the machine to keep it awake, enough time never passes for it to receive more data on the state of other machines before it goes to sleep again – so it syncs partially, but never completely – UNLESS I make changes on a remote machine and then boom – those changes show up immediately at the Linux end, and vice-versa.

    So – to work properly and not drive people crazy, Opera needs to:
    a) remember an instance of a browser and not re-add it to the system every time it signs in.
    b) give sync a higher priority so that the user is not fooled into thinking nothing is happening, or that a full folder has been replaced by an empty one for instance, so that he tries to make changes while sync is underway.
    c) recognize duplicates of the same bookmark and not add them again to the same folder on another machine if they are already present.
    d) Figure out how/why it is that folder contents get collapsed into other (even unlabeled) folders, and stop that happening.

  • ayespy

    Update: The laptop went to hibernation. I woke it up, and all of its bookmarks were propagated to all the other Opera versions.

    • Nerdebeu

      What I cannot explain, this is why these errors affect certain people, you, me and a few others who have already written onthis subject, and not the vast majority of other people.
      The common thread that I have with you, is that all my machines are not necessarily running at the same time. However,whether that all machines are in operation for synchronization is working correctly, I do not call it the synchronization. Andfor the SD, it is a story of crazy also. I have 20 for 4 machines…

      • Lacedaemon

        Last time I checked, sync created more than 10 SD folders of my machine’s name…for what reason??? and that I couldn’t remove no matter what I tried…so annoying. I don’t have a smartphone though, so I have disabled everything “sync”. I guess same goes for a lot of people. But it was very annoying, not having the expected control and no insight over how things work… I can feel your pain, it was very frustrating.

        • bwat47

          you can remove the duplicate other sd folders using the bookmarks by the side extension: https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/bookmarks-by-the-side/

          Definitely agree there needs to be some kind of built in way to prevent and/or remove duplicates, same for tab sync.

          • Nerdebeu

            This is the solution I used before considering suicide: SD come back and come back and come back again and still more …. !!!

        • Nerdebeu

          And for bookmarks, I have the right to have 12 versions, or find those I had deleted for 3 weeks … Ah what is certain is that I can not lose! Unless by anger, I delete the wrong version on the wrong machine …

    • SuperTommy

      You know you can reply to yourself, right?

      • ayespy

        Yeah – but then the topic drops out of view.

  • Aiden Phelps

    I found a bug: http://i.imgur.com/jvMmVdE.png

    Windows 8.1 64 bit.

  • Wando Schneider

    Leaving Opera – Daniel Aleksandersen: https://www.aeyoun.com/posts/goodbye-opera-software.html

    • ayespy

      I liked Daniel. I hope he’ll find something good.

      • Thanks, man! I hope I find something good too. 🙂

        • wolkenspalter

          Are you or one of the other guys changing to the other O-ffice?

    • Zero Kiryu

      I expected this to happen like a year ago. Well, I guess it’s time to try some new browser because it’s much likely that Opera development will be completely closed without any announcement…

    • Lacedaemon

      And that’s the hard face of multimillionaire corporations & capitalism… whaaaa I make millions but I can’t pay native people, they are so expensive! Let’s develop it in India or Pakistan where the wages are $1/day… humans? what is that?

      R.I.P. Opera browser (what was left of it anyway), welcome… Yandexopera.

      • Leonardo Gomes

        Just remembering that the development of Opera had been done in several places since a long time.

        And there still will be people working in Oslo but in another product/area.

        • Lacedaemon

          Long time you mean before the switch to Chromium? Opera browser is dead to me bro, no matter what you say, Vivaldi is where I’m going. I don’t want polish, russian, whatever eastern flavors in my browser, sorry but that’s the way it is. If I wanted to I would be using Yandex. Opera desktop HQ is now in Poland and last time I checked Jon von Tetzchner is not the head there, nor any of the norwegian people I was communicating with in this blog, so it’s farewell time…

          • Rômulo

            This is sad. But we all knew it would come.

          • loxiw

            Why do you say that?

          • Rômulo

            Words of Olafur on Twitter: “Opera dismantling desktop-team in oslo is actually killing the department that started it all. Strong signal on where the company is headed”

            We all knew that Opera was not the same long time ago and this move just proves that.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Long time you mean before the switch to Chromium?

            Yep, long before that. I guess it started on the beginning or in the middle of the 2000’s.

          • Vux777

            uhmm…
            aren’t you from Greece?

          • Lacedaemon

            yes, Hellas=Greece. What does this have to do with it?

          • Vux777

            it does with your “eastern flavor” trolling

          • Lacedaemon

            Eastern Europe is… Eastern. Greece is Southern or Mediterranean, learn some geography…
            also, you don’t get it do you? Desktop HQ in any other place except for Norway is no Opera for me, like as it wouldn’t be IKEA if the design HQ was not in Sweden, BMW HQ not in Germany etc..

          • Vux777

            I don’t know…you seem far east from here
            you think your better than EE ppl or something?
            btw. Vivaldi team, you know,where you going… is made of ppl whose flavor you don’t like..sry to burst your bubble

          • Lacedaemon

            yeah whatever you say… https://vivaldi.com/team/

      • ruduh

        I think the ASA Opera’s staff in their Office in Poland receive smaller income and benefits. Yes, welcome old and future employees YandexOpera… 🙁

    • SuperTommy

      Ruari, Helge, Thorben? 🙁

      • All gone.

        • SuperTommy

          What a shame. Good luck to all of you, and thanks for the good times!

        • Wando Schneider

          Unbelievable. Really Sad :(. As SuperTommy said, thank you guys for the good times.

        • Wow, what a sad day. I wish all of you guys good luck and hope you all find an even better place to work.

        • Helge Andre Gjølme

          Thanks guys! Maybe we’ll see you around on the internet somewhere.

          • SQL

            Oh man, that’s sad. All of you 🙁

        • rufu2

          Oomph. That is very sad to hear. Does not make me more hopeful for the future of Opera…
          All the best to you guys! Take a break, and then do something fun again!

      • Wando Schneider

        Without these guys (+ Daniel), I don’t know if I’ll continue to follow Opera’s development.

      • Well, one last post then: Goodbye!

      • Petter Nilsen

        Goodbye from me too, although I left 2 months ago!

        • Iandol

          Petter, what can I say, you’ve been like the (good) Terminator of developers for so many years, super fast to respond to ideas, quick to improve and fix things and with a great eye for UI design, we’ll miss your formidable input to Opera! Good luck with your future plans, Ian

          • Petter Nilsen

            Thanks Ian, it’s been a fun 10+ years for me at Opera, but it was time to move on. You’ll still be seeing me around in the browser business, but no longer for Opera :p

    • Good bye everyone. It has been a interesting few years! (And yes, we did actually read all your comments over the year. The vast majority, at least.)

      Please follow me on Twitter or Google+.

      • Wando Schneider

        Good bye Daniel! I wish you the best!

      • Nekomajin43

        You know, why I’m really sad is because (among others) you and Ruari and Thorben were the ones who were willing to talk to us. After the chaos of the engine switch, the last few months were nice here on this blog. I hope that others will fill your places and spend time to help this forming community.

        Good luck to all of you!

      • Lacedaemon

        Why saying goodbye actually, you could still post here as a user and provide feedback as everybody else. It isn’t derogatory to do so. Or wasn’t Opera your favorite browser? Or isn’t anymore?

        • I’ll probably move on. 🙂

          • Lacedaemon

            A career switch to a PR department, I’m sure. Even now you can’t give a straight answer. Well good luck.

          • ayespy

            Some people have manners – and if they don’t have good things to say, they keep their own counsel.

          • Lacedaemon

            So he has not good things to say about the Opera browser, this is surprising.

          • ayespy

            You assume too much. Perhaps he feels the browser is perfect. Probably not. Perhaps he thinks it’s the best currently available, but would rather not contribute to the forums of a company that just punched him in the gut. The wounds might smart just a bit too much at the moment. Perhaps he felt that, in spite of his best efforts, it didn’t move fast enough or directly enough, in a direction he would have preferred. Maybe he thinks at least one or two browsers in the world show a bit more promise, given the bitter taste in his mouth at the moment. Perhaps departing staff received some small severance package, a condition of which would be that they not discuss current Opera matters in public for a while. In any event, for him to say what YOU THINK HE SHOULD, perhaps he feels he would either be lying, or would have to contravene his own sense of decorum. It is neither for you to say, nor to assume. He’s his own person. How he conducts his life (and his communication) are, frankly, none of your concern.

            I say all this having already hitched my wagon to the Vivaldi star, but retaining much regard for the legacy Opera crew,- including those who survived the Opera 15 transition. They are a cut above, on the whole, and it is my choice to show them a little respect, whatever their choices are, and not impugn their motives.

          • I hadn’t intended to comment in this thread but your post warrants more than just an upvote.

            I know you are talking about Daniel and not me but thanks for your insightful thoughts.

          • ayespy

            No, Ruari. Thank you.

          • Lacedaemon

            He’s his own person. How he conducts his life (and his communication) are, frankly, none of your concern.

            And yours neither about how I will conduct my communication.
            I know his communication, I’ve been in the forums for a much while and contrary to every other dev all he did was PR talk like a politician, and made many people often angry because of that. And PR talking shows A LOT about someone’s character. You may like him and it’s ok but don’t play papa here.

          • ayespy

            I have a feeling there are a LOT of people on the web and in the world who “make you angry” by not living up to your rarefied standards (which include making public negative remarks in the interest of being “real” I suppose). You are welcome to such negative and toxic standards. Thankfully the rest of us don’t have to abide by them.

            Love, your Papa.

          • Lacedaemon

            Oh how thankfully. Kiss his ass as much as you want.

            Kisses, your Mama.

          • ayespy

            Thanks! And I don’t care what everyone says about you. You’re alright by me. And thanks again, BTW, for demonstrating my point. Mighty white of you.

          • ayespy

            One can hardly blame you. Also, you have a lot of old friends over at a certain community I could think of…

      • L33t4opera

        I’m aware, that this is not quite appropriate to this whole case, but still quite nice goodbye song, so I dedicate it for you all cool, Opera’s former people – wish you all good in your new, and I hope even more exciting, future work 😉

        We will miss you!

      • kokolo5

        Good bye Daniel. Love & luck for your future.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4a_DA_vFas

      • Iandol

        Daniel, you’ve been an amazing QA and then design lead. The Mac build is substantially better from your input. You certainly have the right combination of obsession and curiosity to land on your feet and I really wish you the best. (non-troppo).

        EDIT: A big thanks to Ruari, Helge and Thorben and anyone else lost — indeed Opera’s desktop team has lost some great people…

      • Hecc-MA

        Luck and success!!

  • Steffen Schaaf

    Since Version 30.0.1835.5 Opera hanging after Start.

  • Ki Wa

    That’s nice to hear, I had to switch to Iron because of this infinite loading bug. Edit: nope, it still doesn’t work. Back to Iron.

    • Jin

      I’m not sure whether DNA-37142 also affects Win7 x64 or not, but the infinite loading is not fixed in my case, either.
      Honestly speaking, it’s really disappointing to see that such a blocker bug is still left as it is since around an year.
      Normally you would believe that Opera is not usable at all (because of the bug), you’ll just go over to another browser right after the install – Opera is missing the chance to gain new users.

  • SuperTommy

    Anyone else having problems with tab syncing? My list of tabs is several days old and doesn’t update.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Nope, it’s working here. Just the usual few minutes delay.

    • ayespy

      .

      • SuperTommy

        Why did you remove it?

        • ayespy

          I realized you were talking about tabs. I have been fixated on bookmarks, so I answered about bookmarks (even though I used the word tabs) My bad. My reply was not relevant to your question.

          • SuperTommy

            Ah, yeah, you used tabs so I thought it was the exact same issue you had. Well, safe to say there’s sync problems though!

          • ayespy

            I think that’s pretty clear. The syncing rules are poorly written, I think – and trying to follow them may give the sync servers headaches. The methods of identifying items to be synced and of deciding which iteration rules, should be simpler. A sync item should be identified by URL and position within the system only, and not by source, and the most recent change, irrespective of its source, should be respected. Of course when you have categories like tabs and speed dials from other machines that you merely want to SHOW, and not SYNC, this is not an actual function of sync.

          • Vux777

            I don’t understand why they didn’t use google sync like other chromium vendors do, and in the meantime develop their own solution if wanted, without pressure.
            Is there any legal limitation for that?
            This way we waited 2y. for sync and it’s still bugged like hell (and without passwords sync)

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Based on several comments here and on the forums, i guess that many people wouldn’t like to see the name “Google” associated with their data.

          • Vux777

            many other ppl would still use it, as temporally solution at least..those who don’t like it, no need to forcing them
            …as for the pass sync, it’s been 2y. since O15
            company that relies on mobile-desktop solution is lacking basic feature like syncing data between devices for two long years :/
            those things should be done in couple of months max, after new Opera started…
            and bookmarks sync is so useful that I turn it off

          • Leonardo Gomes

            And talking about password sync, i think that it may be one of the last things to ber added to sync as it requires extra security care.

          • Vux777

            you should see my mistake about “side bar > task bar” ツ
            Dyslexia rulez

  • Anonimo

    I’m trying to figure out how to get windowId in which sidebar is opened (in background when browser is open with more windows with sidebar). I need an answer for my extension 🙁

  • Konstantin Paramonov

    please order changed “opera:flags” chronologically from the newest on top (it will make it more easier to find out broken features)

  • hafasd

    After exiting Opera using Ctrl+Q while in fullscreen mode with some flash video, Opera starts in some strange mode (something like windowed fullscreen) – without any toolbars. You have to press Esc key to get back to normal view.
    Build 30.0.1835.6 Linux.

  • zoli62

    During installation on Linux will be added an container for auto update?

  • modemjunkie
  • harry

    Bring back notes and I will be ready to switch from opera 12. I know all the extensions that can do notes but I need the built-in one that I can easily sync along with my other things. Extension has always been a turn off for me and thats why I used opera over firefox or later chrome.

    • darek

      I agree with the notes back…

  • darek

    Bring back notes it was very useful to fill form, how long people will ask you about it………………………… In new opera was lost suggestion of password in password field on logged site, I think sometimes fonts are to small in input fields etc
    I don’t understand you , first you introduce fantastic improvement and second you remove it !

    • Vux777

      did you tried this ?
      You can’t fill forms from right click (yet, maybe I’ll add it), but you can double click to copy note to clipboard

      • darek

        Tanks for fast reply, I installed this extension but I don’t see bar of notes after adding it by right click and ‘add to notes’ , I can’t paste notes to fill form on my linux Ubuntu. It work only like copy, not making notes.
        Old notes allow me fast fill all form on site like , name, address, telephone, age , etc what i noted in notes i could fast paste by right click and chose right note to paste, now there is no possibility to fast fill of form it was excellent idea and functionality.
        There is no other browser implements this fantastic functionality it should be included in basic version like in old opera.

        • Vux777

          what do you mean “bar of notes” after adding it?
          you can’t see side bar or …?
          it’s under O-menu>>extensions

          • darek

            Hi,
            Finally I turn on sidebar by enter command which you show on V7Notes www side ‘opera://flags/#extension-sidebar’ on Windows 7, but this not works like old notes it have no simple functionality, it is like many other notes extension. I don’t know it is possible maybe you and opera team don’t know functionality of old notes in old opera ? it is possible I ask opera by 3 years to back up old notes , zero reaction, and not only I :), maybe i will make the movie for youtube to show how it worked i don’t know.

            First your notes bar take space from pulpit, like whole side bar, it is not good idea etc , second if i want paste some notes i must search sidebar to find note click on it twice(good idea) and after that back to site again search it to find right field focus it and finally then paste it uffff 🙂 , it is too much clicking too much searching and too much movement with mouse and to much back and forward etc.
            In old opera i could simple paste notes by right click on input field on www site, like input text etc field, and from context menu i could fast chose right note to paste it and finish and go on to the next field. 10 second and I could fill all site without touching keyboard !! No other browser had such improvement only old opera I don’t know why this simple improvement was removed.

          • Vux777

            I don’t know it is possible maybe you and opera team don’t know functionality of old notes in old opera ? it is possible I ask opera by 3 years to back up old notes , zero reaction, and not only I :), maybe i will make the movie for youtube to show how it worked i don’t know.

            yea, you should definitely make a movie about it ツ

          • darek

            Get to work and don’t joke from serious problem !

          • Vux777

            what serious problems?
            I don’t understand you…
            can you make a movie?

          • darek

            Ok, if i will have time, but I thought that if you are so smart you should know what is the problem. There really need be made movie you understand what is the matter.

  • You say you won’t let us choose our own default search engines because you are concerned for our security, yet WebRTC is leaking local IPs over VPN. Do you intend to make WebRTC switchable in the future?

  • taneli

    Can’t watch 90% of the videos on youtube with these latest builds, page just crashes after 2 seconds. (HTML5, no flash used). Also Windows no more recognises Opera for opening PDF’s (which i guess isn’t that bad since it still renders them wrong, or, just won’t render them).

    Win7 Home edition.

    • alexiz

      same here

  • Vux777

    on win10 (latest build x64), window is cut off in full screen (upper part of tabs bar)

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      I don’t see what you mean. Maybe “Disable the top spacing of the tab bar if the browser window is maximized” in the settings?

      • Vux777

        Window looks like it is cut off on top. O- button and tabs close button are too high (too close to top)

    • Carson Coyote

      Yeah, this is something with Windows 10. It happens to Firefox for me.

      • SuperTommy

        Same here. Not an Opera issue.

  • AriZone

    Articles on Wired are really messed up. I’ve seen this since last couple of builds. Please check this out.

  • Ghirahim

    I want to reinstall Opera but I don’t want to lose my saved passwords. Is there a way to export them or something? Or maybe there is a file in Opera folder that I can copy?

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Have a look in the help at http://help.opera.com/opera/Windows/1781/de/solutions.html#backup. Maybe you find what you are looking for.

      • Vux777

        this won’t help in case of OS reinstall
        Before, I was using Chrome sync when reinstalling OS, but last time didn’t work.
        Login file from Canary is not recognized in Opera DEV.
        So, I guess only third party service like Lasst pass etc is left…

        • Ralf Brinkmann

          The help says, the file “Login Data” ist for user names and passwords. So it should be possible to save this file and copy it back later. Or you save the whole profile folder.

        • Ghirahim

          I won’t reinstall my OS, just Opera. Will it work if I copy “Login Data” file?

          • Vux777

            it should if you keep it in same channel (dev into dev, stable into stable etc…)
            file from developer channel probably won’t work if you copy it into stable installation…
            from my experience, it’s kind of dark sorcery, sometime works sometim doesn’t

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    Do we need a 64-bit version?
    Look at this image: http://view.stern.de/de/rubriken/menschen/portrait-frau-studio-maedchen-martina-original-2803977.html
    On my screen I see a lot of artifacts at the transitions from shadow to light. It looks brown and green and demolished. Very bad!

    I have tried the same picture with several browsers. For example in 32-bit Firefox it looks just as ugly, but in 64-bit Firefox it looks perfect and smooth like the original image – with the same settings. The same with 64-bit Vivaldi.
    Or does anybody know a setting in Opera, that makes the picture look better?

    I have tried without any extension and also with a complete new profile. The same result.

    • Vux777

      those artifacts could be because of image compression
      you can check in dev tools differences in image format and size
      an why would stern.de serve different formats to different browsers, don’t know…I guess if web page recognize browser support (WebP for instance) it will serve that kind of image to reduce data transfer
      maybe you are using turbo, maybe FFx64 doesn’t support compressed img webP so you get max quality..etc

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        No, there is nothing compressed and I don’t use turbo. Originally I saw this image on http://www.fotocommunity.de, but it is in a section that you can’t visit without login data. So I tried to find the same image on another page. And this is not the only example. I have the original jpg-file here and can compare it. In FF-64 it looks like the original. In Google Chrome I have also problems. With Vivaldi it’s ok.

        Didn’t you see the artifacts I was talking about?

        Edit: Even with the user agent switcher the look is always the same.

        • Vux777

          yes, but with turbo Opera ON..
          http://prntscr.com/711j5e
          on left is Vivaldi x32, on the right is Opera dev with turbo mode ON
          How do you know that is nothing compressed?
          It doesn’t matter if you download it (it will probably be in jpg)
          http://prntscr.com/711kbl
          I seriously doubt that img artifacts are because of x32 VS x64

          ps. once the webP img is downloaded, browser will use it as legit src from cache, so agent switching wont do

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            Your screenshot looks better than my original webpage. 🙂 I don’t have turbo on and I have also tried it out with a complete fresh profile. The photographer sent me the original image and told me, that this is exactely the one he uploaded on both platforms. I don’t know if this is a problem of x32 vs. x64, that was just a question. Maybe Opera knows better. And I have always emptied the cache after switching to a new user agent and before reloading.

          • Vux777

            did you check the dev tools and compared those images that looks good with the bad one..is it the same format and size?

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            I don’t exactely understand what you mean. When I’m on the image page and I open “Entwicklerwerkzeuge” (Dev Tools – CTRL-Shift-I) I see the following: http://prntscr.com/7127sy. On this screenshot you can also see the brown and green colours in the shadow parts on the right, the left arm and the chest.

          • Vux777

            aww, this looks really wrong (colors)
            I meant, when you open dev tools, go to resources tab, than under frames–images you can see info about image.. like here
            http://prntscr.com/711kbl

            but those artifacts are not because of img format or compression…there is something else wrong (I think) 🙂

            If this affects your other browsers, it’s system related

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            Ok, now I found it. At “portrait-frau-maedchen-studio-martina-1920.jpg” I have
            Dimensions 1500 × 1500
            File size 500 KB
            MIME type image/jpeg
            URL http://view.stern.de/de/picture/2803977/portrait-frau-studio-maedchen-martina-1920.jpg

            and on the target page on this url I have the same colour problems. Not in all browsers, only in Opera and Google Chrome. Firefox x64 and Vivaldi x64 are ok.

  • Vux777

    I just realized that when “continue where I left off” in settings is checked, Sidebar state is also saved (opened with extension in it or just active)
    but with “Open the start page”, I have to start side bar every time all over again
    is there away to mix those two things?
    (save side bar with “Open the start page” option)

  • SuperTommy

    No update since April 22. I’m getting restless.

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Me too! Maybe they all are still in the truck on the way to Poland. 🙂

    • Wando Schneider

      I give up. Now, there’s no need to look up every day for new stuff.once a week is already enough.

  • ma_t14

    Sidebar does not remember its width after restart, I might be wrong but I think it worked in a previous build.

  • Ralf Brinkmann
  • L33t4opera

    The first Opera developer 31 – 31.0.1857.0 😉

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