We have been busy improving syncing services and our bookmarks manager in the last few weeks. Syncing in Opera developer 27 for computers should now work well. But, we are not the only ones who have been busy. The Opera for Android browser also released a new beta version that includes syncing!

Syncing bookmarks with Android

If you install Opera browser beta for Android mobile and Opera developer 27 on your computer, you can see cross-device syncing in action for the first time. Go ahead! Make some bookmarks on your computer and see them appear on your Android phone.

Sync bookmarks between Opera Desktop and Opera for Android

Sync bookmarks between Opera for computers and Opera for Android

Sync open tabs between computers

In Opera for computers, you can now sync your open tabs. The process is straightforward:

  1. Sign into your Opera account on two Opera for computer browsers.
  2. Open some tabs in one of them.
  3. In the other, go to Opera > Recent Tabs (on Windows or Linux Gnome) or History > Other Devices (on Mac or Linux Unity) and enjoy tab synchronization.

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Improvements to the bookmarks manager

We listened carefully to the feedback you gave us about the bookmark manager. We are always working to improve the feature and some of your suggestions already made it into this release. Now, when you right-click on a sidebar item, a context menu gives you the option to rename or delete top-level folders.

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As always, there are more fixes and improvements to come.

Changelog and download links

Full changelog

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  • L33t4opera

    Hi Thorben, congrats on the first Opera developer 27 😉

    • A. R.

      Congrats too.

      Please make this release the release which caches the interest of those still on O12.x.

      It will yet another huge disappointment if features are not added. Tweaking a feature is not a new feature.

      • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

        It’s very likely this release will include sync, which is important for many users.

        • A. R.

          mmkay, so why not introduce something else too. What are we getting now that tab preview was found not the THE tab handling solution u desired. I guess stacking is much more ease on the resources too.

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            Why not?
            Because features don’t just happen, but require a lot of people to work on them… ^^

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            Yes, and we are releasing quite often: Every six weeks.

          • Patata Johnson

            And yet there are far less changes and new features than back in the days of Presto. The only things that got faster upgraded is your version number, cause everyone thinks they have to do it the Google way…

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            It’s not the Google way. It’s the result of the whole industry adapting to omni-present network connections and designing agile release cycles to take advantage of that. Releasing often has many advantages.

            And I also doubt that there are less features. Maybe it feels this way, but we basically have something new every six weeks.

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            Yes, something “new”.

          • A. R.

            Indeed.

          • escruting

            Why not use the old way of upgrading but with the build name between brackets? We already have 27.0 on opera:about. Why is the zero always a zero? Couldn’t this version be 26.2 (build 1670.0), instead of jumping to version 27 (just an example).

          • anonym

            yeah, but: why every 6 weeks with new main version if there were just some fixes.
            and: why not put some experimental code into developer? compared to the past there is actually no difference in developer, beta or stable while using it

          • A. R.

            my question too.

          • A. R.

            Tweaking is all you do, and flip flopping.

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            If you really think so, I will not try to convince you otherwise

          • A. R.

            Oh my bad, well I try to think otherwise 🙂 let’s agree.

  • A. R.

    Tab stacking in O27?

    • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

      I guess you are about to complain? 😉

      • A. R.

        No, just to keep mentioning it. I mean they gotta do something now that tab preview (which was suppose to be THE tab handling feature) is non-defaulted. If a person doesn’t know how to relocate cache (basic IE & every browser option!!) then the person doesn’t know how to go to experiments and enable tab preview. Relocating cache is just as hard or easy.

        I cannot believe the direction Opera is going. Opera used to be free and unique. Yes it’s still free, but the freedom that we had with O12 is nowhere near the new Opera. In fact they are removing features and options on every release, bringing very little back.

        Shame on you Opera.

        • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

          Well, we are all very sad here at Opera …

          • Onno Willems

            And you are making your users sad too.
            What a sad world this has become…
            .
            .
            ;o)

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            Yes, it’s horrible. Fortunately, there is a weekend coming

          • Onno Willems

            A good moment to try out one of those 21 ways to make cheap liquor taste better and think about your sins.

            Cheers!
            (and we wouldn’t mind if you got so drunk you posted your development roadmap, grin)

          • Jorton

            Hey, I like you attitude.

          • YemSalat

            Are you serious?

        • Patata Johnson

          They just don’t care about their userbase anymore. They tried to reach the mainstreammarket, yet unable to see that the mainsteam already has Chrome (and partly Firefox) and that there is no need for a bad Chrome copy…

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            Yes, nobody here cares about anything. It’s very sad.

          • Alex

            I’m sorry, but this is not true. Although I was sceptical and I wanted to leave Opera and move to other browser when they released 15 (and 16, 17, 18…), I stuck with it and I don’t regret it.

            There are many features that are needed in Opera and are still not present, but at the same time, I can see that they started to listen to (some of the) requests. I’m quite happy with that.

            And the “Chrome copy” comment is getting old, really…
            Opera is regaining its identity, as far as I can see. Slowly, but surely.

          • Patata Johnson

            Far too slow in my opinion and most of the features they introduce are either useless gimmicks or just those that Chrome already had for ages. There isn’t much left from the old Opera ASA. Bookmarks Manager might look nice, but is a real mess and nightmare to work with…

          • Alex

            Then why don’t you consider moving to Chrome or some other browser? (genuine question)

            I disagree yet again… Bookmarks Manager can be hugely improved, but it’s not such a nightmare any more. It really is promising, at least from my point of view.

            I don’t really care much about the “old Opera ASA” any more. This is not a sport club. I don’t care to be a fan. I’m not bound to be loyal to a company or a product. I use a product if I like it, not because I used it for 6 years. If the company changes the product in a way I don’t like it, I move to some other product.
            As I said, I didn’t like “the new Opera” at first, I only started to like it when they released Dev 20-something (24 I think). But now it begins to grow on me more and more.

          • Patata Johnson

            Cause I don’t really like how Webkit / Blink becomes the new IE6 in some aspects, and I don’t really like and trust Google. Opera ASA used to be different, a company who cared about users privacy concerns. Now we have Chropera Mobile which even includes Google Analytics. How times have changed…

          • Alex

            So that means you still find Opera the best browser… Nobody cares about privacy any more. I don’t like Google either. And I’ve tried going back to Mozilla, but I just didn’t like it like I used to like it years before.

          • NIBB

            Don’t ever say that. People do care about privacy, people are not aware of most privacy concerns today because they trust companies. Did you knew new Smart TV’s have the microphone on 24/7 and send the recordings to third parties?

            Everything you say in the room is transfered to a cloud service for supposed quality tracking purposes. And please don’t start about I have nothing to hide. Corporations have patents and business secrets, that is just one example but you don’t have to be a criminal to deserve privacy. Everyone has the right not to be spied. Governments have secrets, corporations have secrets, and people have them. Its part of the human nature, and it does not mean they are wrong. You have the right to them. Privacy is right and comments like yours are the reason some companies are abusing it.

            Google does not allow external software that calls home (outside Google offices) in their facilities either, not even standard linux distros because they send data externally, Google removes and blocks all external communication to outside servers, but they put tracking and spyware in all their software to call Google datacenters, Google itself would not allow Chrome for their employees use if it was made by another company.

            So there you have it. People using Opera use it because they trust Opera more than Google, or trusted anyway…why do you think corporations still use Explorer? Because the crap things vendors are putting in browsers which are sending data externally, companies don’t allow this in their premises.

          • Alex

            I’m sorry about the misunderstanding. When I said “nobody”, I meant companies. Of course people care about privacy. I do too, but unfortunately it’s little we can do about it… It’s not necessarily about “I have nothing to hide”, but more of “It’s my right to keep my life private”. That’s why I’m not fond on Facebook either. However, society almost forces you to have a fb account nowadays.

            If we protest and obtain (regain) our rights to privacy back, they will still do these things without us knowing. And you might agree with them spying you when you install an app or buy a new device. How many of us really read the contracts?

            You know they say loss of privacy is the price we pay for technology progress, but I personally don’t think that should be the case.
            The sad part is that I fail to see how we can change this. Of course, blocking some apps, not using some software or devices might seem an option, but does it really help? I don’t really trust the “We care for your privacy” and “We don’t collect any data” statements any more. And you already mentioned the Government issue.

          • A. R.

            Indeed.

          • plague

            Just thought I’d mention that Chrome now has a Bookmark Manager extension from Google that looks like a carbon-copy of Operas, it was previously codenamed Stars. Don’t know which started life first or whether either company developed it on their own or if they copied each other.
            https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bookmark-manager/gmlllbghnfkpflemihljekbapjopfjik

            I tested it today and it’s actually less polished than Operas version. It’s trickier to work with and has less features, except for one thing; it allows moving multiple bookmarks at once. I’m sure Opera will enable that soonish aswell though. Other than that, Operas Bookmark Manager is, currently, the better one.

            Now, whether it’s better than a classic Bookmark Manager (Opera Presto, Firefox, etc..) is debatable.
            I’d say functionally a classic Bookmark Manager is currently better, but visually? Not even close.
            The functionality can always be improved, so I’m pretty happy with the direction Operas (and Googles) new Bookmark Managers are going (if they indeed will catch up functionality-wise in the future).

          • Lacedaemon
          • Alex

            I’m not a fan of replacing missing features with extensions… Yet I checked the extension you’re talking about and I have to say this little paragraph intrigued me:

            “Collect bookmarks by topic: Your bookmarks will automatically be organized by topic, like “Tokyo” and “Photography.” If you’d rather, you can still organize them into folders yourself.”

            Now I’m wondering if it works well and if it will be implemented in Opera’s BM too.
            Moving multiple bookmarks at once would be very useful indeed. But yes, I guess it will be added to Opera too, since you can already select multiple items.
            Since some staff from Opera works on chromium too, it might be that they worked together on the bookmark manager, so it might have the same base at least?

            Visually speaking… I sort of like it. I use the thumbnail view for sites I use often, yet not as often to add them to speed dial and list view for things to check later or to share later, so I can clearly see the title. I also like that you can set different view options to each folder.

            I agree, I’m almost sure that the Bookmark Manager(s) will get better. I still hope they will add tags too.

          • A. R.

            They are flip flopping with even options but features too.

            Removed, forgotten, pushed back, not polished, again flip flopping…

            Looks like they don’t have a direction.

            Tweaking a feature is not a new feature.

            New feature is not neither nor either an option or experiment flip flopping.

            Shame on you Opera.

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            So what is a feature then?
            Stop repeating the same things all over the blog all the time. If you keep repeating the same ideas all over, don’t be surprised if you will get the same, standardised answer in the future

          • A. R.

            Yeah I’m stuck with new Opera too, well sometimes I use 12 for certain websites because there is some functionality in O12 that just rocks with those websites – like tab stacking, and notes.

            I do love the new Opera. I just don’t like to see features and options being pushed back, not implemented, worse removed (like Opera has done (bring back cache location!)) and being flip flopped.

            So tab preview is too fat feature for common computers, well bring back the light and lite tab stacking then.

          • Alex

            I know what you’re saying. I miss tab stacking and notes. I don’t want to use extensions though and I just don’t want two browsers either.

            There are indeed some features and options that I want back (custom default search is one of them). Well, the bookmarks manager’s future was uncertain, yet they (finally) implemented it, so who knows? Other features/options might follow.

            Tab preview might be useful sometimes or for some people, just not for me. But I do like the tab list.

          • A. R.

            Yes this is very thoughtful, let’s hope that the devs understand, notes was is a fantastic feature in it’s simplicity but achieving so much 🙂

          • NIBB

            I also stuck with it, but to be honest from time to time I see how rich feature other browsers are and are tented to drop it, they are adding features which is nice, but at this step its going to take a decade to even have things Firefox or the old Opera Presto had. And Firefox is now launching a browser for developers.

            If they want people to switch from Chrome or other browsers to Opera, they should clearly have something innovative and features are the only thing I can think of since most browsers are the same in terms of speed, rendering today. There way to many clicks and steps to get to things in the new Opera. Example is getting to bookmarks or the last open tab, they are hiding all features which require to many clicks and steps to get there. This is bad usability.

          • Alex

            Maybe I haven’t checked the progress of the other browsers enough lately. Now I’m curious about the Firefox for developers. I’m wondering if it will solve the old average vs power-user problem and if so, what will be Opera’s response.

            Yes, you’re right that innovative features are they way to go if they want new users. Ah, certainly! I agree about the number of clicks. I, for example, liked it when I could add a site to Speed Dial or Stash, because they were two icons one right beside the other.

            But I’m still willing to wait a bit longer if it means I’ll get a superior product. I prefer it to take some time and be good, then being done in a rush and poorly.

          • A. R.

            i agree. why aren’t they shifting policy?

        • MarkG54321

          They are making it better for common users. This will always upset hipsters, nothing Opera can do will change this, these idiots think until Opera makes new Opera just like Opera 12 (whith all it’s faults), they won’t be happy.

          • Lacedaemon

            You ‘re calling old O12 users hipsters? You clearly don’t know what you are talking about…

          • plague

            Afaik noone is saying they should make new Opera “just like Opera 12 (with all it’s faults)”.
            People are asking mostly for features that were present for about a decade and basic functionality that every other desktop browser already has and that Opera Presto also had. They are not asking for a carbon-copy of Opera 12.
            There is a clear difference there.
            Making something better for common users does not mean it has to be locked down for experienced users aswell, so your claim that “nothing Opera can do will change this” is simply false.

            Also, “hipsters”? Please, get a dictionary before you try to insult people.

            Edit:
            By the way, I’m one of the people asking for those features, but I also know development takes time, so I’m hoping it’ll come.. Someday.. I just wish Opera (the higher ups who make the devs sign NDA’s) would be a bit more open with information regarding the re-implementation of features they already had in Opera Presto for about a decade.
            There’s nothing new there, no need for hush-hush.

          • Patata Johnson

            On the other hand, those “hipsters” used to be Opera’s user base and all statistics show that Opera’s market shares knows only one direction… going down. And I must say, they really deserve it

          • A. R.

            I don’t know if they deserve it but it’s a shame.

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            Watch your tone, please.
            I fixed that for you now, but next time your comment will be just gone. No second warning.

        • Lacedaemon

          How times change… video: Tab stacking in Opera 11

          • Patata Johnson

            Indeed. Opera used to be a unique and feature rich browser

        • Leaudevie

          > I guess you are about to complain?

          >> No, just to keep mentioning it.
          >>I cannot believe the direction Opera is going.
          >>they are removing features and options on every release
          >>Shame on you Opera.

          Absolutely no complaints to see here! :/

    • Em-a-il

      Please add it!!!

    • Marko Koivuniemi

      I also miss tab stacking but I would settle if there were option to lock windows so I cannot accidentally close tabs which contains my own tab stacks – I have couple of times accidentally closed couple of windows so I cannot restore all the tabs I have closed.

  • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

    Can I make synced tabs auto-open on all devices so that I have the same set open on all PCs?
    I do have quite some Opera installations on this laptop alone and keeping them in sync manually is just a PITA.

    • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

      We decided this is a bit intrusive. We will probably experiment with such options after sync works well and we have some experience with how users use it

      • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

        I hope this will come.
        I understand that I might have different tabs at work and at home or on my mobile device than on my desktop PC, but as said, I do have multiple desktop installs, too.
        A lot of people actually do have multiple devices of the same category and continuing on device B where you left off on A is considered “modern”, isn’t it?
        In its current form it’s pretty useless to me. So at least make it an option per device.

        edit: not “at least”. Make it optional. Cause it really depends on which device your install is on.

        • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

          I guess it depends. It solves my use cases perfectly:
          I often decide at home what I want to cook and buy and then go to the shop. I choose one or two recipes online and then go buy the stuff for that. So have the recipes available, I now just need to take my phone with me and access the open tabs on my computer.

          I think it’s better to start with a very unobtrusive version and then see where it is going form there.

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            As said: That depends on the devices and how you are using them. There’s no such thing as one solution to fit them all 😉

          • https://github.com/dqdb/opera-extensions dqdb

            Maybe a “Shared tab” item with a checkbox in tab context menu? By default tabs are not synced between devices and browsers, but shared tabs are.

      • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

        http://codog.bplaced.de/Opera/syncTabs.png
        Looks pretty unobstrusive to me 😉

        • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

          Well, there is always room for improvements later … It’s a good idea! 🙂

          • A. R.

            yet there has hardly been much new since O15 and bookmarks :/

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            “yet”?!

            Your comment makes no sense. I tell him it’s a good idea and we could do that and you tell me we are basically never doing anything? What do you want to express? That we should better not read the blog and respond to good ideas? Because this is how you will get no responses from developers.

          • A. R.

            I beg your pardon obviously i was incorrect. please accept my apologies.

  • http://eser.ozvataf.com/ Eser Ozvataf

    Please hurry up 🙂 Users like me are using multiple computers and it’s really needed in daily use. So, why don’t you pull sync one version sooner?

    • A. R.

      Average users might get confused.

      I don’t know why they even bother with sync because average users don’t sync.

  • Patata Johnson

    Wow… you are getting closer to Chrome’s feature set. Just about 20 version numbers from now and we’ll have an Chrome Clone with almost all features of the original. Great /s

    • A. R.

      Shocking isn’t it. Even IE beats Opera these days.

  • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

    Did anybody have a closer look at what kind of stuff I actually bookmarked? 😉

    • Patata Johnson

      Your recent tabs could indicate that you have either a huge alcoholic problem or try to resist the cold with cheap drinks… oops you mean bookmarked. That secret release could either be Presto reloaded or the next Chropera with even fewer features that could confuse your average users 😉

      • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

        Well, such a nice and friendly answer! Thanks

      • A. R.

        Yes. It’s the new new behind the new – and those who deal the new and come out as a winner, will be successful.

        What the next gen of coders have brought to people are APPS. OK. I guess those are easier to use for kids and elder people and some narrow slice of newbies too, but those who has Internet experience at least 5 years where not all at lost at 12.x.

        I guess it’s cloudy and foggy in Norway Poland California and such.

        The problem might be that it’s a wrong tactic to make applications and clients on a PC to function limited like APPS do.

        You have APPED Opera already please keep the pc client browser free from unneeded locking.

    • SuuperTommy

      Why don’t you test out the share feature for us to see? 🙂

    • Lacedaemon

      Someone is planning vacations to a warmer place? Or someone gets married? 😛
      Although I agree with SuuperTommy below… what do you have Opera Share for? Pfff…noob… 😛

    • rufu2

      I think cross-country skiing is a very good way to survive the cold winter, especially if followed by a fondue party with friends and some wine. And a few days in the sun aren’t bad either in winter (but consider offsetting the CO2…)

    • A. R.

      Yes I amazed those. But still nothing has promised. Like that

      by the time of O30 you would of actually reached a milestone – rather even – milestones … than just a number and bunch of 2 months late bug & tech & sec fixes.

      Shed a light a bit on those apparently 2 secret projects for the next Operas – hopefully O27 too! 🙂

      • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

        I am not sure what we every promises for O30 … and if I don’t know it and I work on the project, there is a good chance it was never promised. What are you talking about?

        • A. R.

          I’m not sure if there point of achieving much else.. a lot of people have shifted to FF and Chrome some even IE, it’s sad. I truly hope and believe Opera yet will surface as a winner 🙂 Rather sooner than later 🙂 but later is ok too if that’s what ur planning..

  • Ghirahim

    YouTube 60FPS when?

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Looks good but too CPU demanding, both my PC could play it in 720p, but 1080p choked them.

      Both of them are Quad-cores.

      • anonym

        works fine on a yoga 2 pro and linux

        • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

          Guess Linux leaves more resources free, but it is not an option anymore for me, at least in the mid-term. Desktop I installed a PCI-EX 1x card to have SATA3 ports, no Linux drivers, not even opensource drivers, so no way to install it. Laptop wireless won’t work, no matter what I do.

          And yes Opera in Linux was so much faster than on Windows, Chrome even had Smooth Scrolling.

    • Wolfpig

      You can already play movies on YT with 60fps on Opera stable….

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    Opera crashes when I open Bookmarks (via CTRL-Shift-B or O-menu).
    W7x64.

    • helsten2

      Confirmed (via opera://bookmarks/ )

      Win7x64

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Sorry, but not here. Same OS.

    • https://github.com/dqdb/opera-extensions dqdb

      Confirmed on W8.1 x64.

    • https://github.com/dqdb/opera-extensions dqdb

      I had to delete my profile and restore bookmarks, favorites, login data, web data and history to solve this problem.

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        Puh, a lot of work! 🙁 And did it also solve the other problem with the Java plugin? Can you try it out?

        • https://github.com/dqdb/opera-extensions dqdb

          I don’t know that Java was or wasn’t working in my previous profile, but it works in the new one. I have 32-bit JRE 8u25 installed.

        • https://github.com/dqdb/opera-extensions dqdb

          I have no choice because I’ve accidentally destroyed my Preferences file with manual MISediting 🙂

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        How did you restore bookmarks, favorites, login data, web data and history, so that everything else is new? Remember, I have an USB installation.

        • https://github.com/dqdb/opera-extensions dqdb

          I’ve renamed the profile folder to a different name, started Opera to create the new profile, quit immediately, and copied Bookmarks, favorites.db, favorites.db-journal, Login Data, Login Data-journal, Web Data, Web Data-journal, History, History-journal and History Provider Cache files from my non-working profile folder to the brand new one. I’ve started again Opera and I had to reinstall all extensions, modify settings and flags manually. I’m also using USB installation.

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            Yes, this is really a shit job, since Opera has no more INI files. Maybe I try it tomorrow.

          • https://github.com/dqdb/opera-extensions dqdb

            It is the same old song: you have to restore some backed up files. Only the lyrics changed, you have to copy
            files
            using a different file name set.

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            No, it doesn’t work. I have started a complete new and clean installation in a separate folder, but Opera still does not recognize the Java plugin. Also after copying the files you wrote from the old profile folder no changing. I did not go on checking the bookmarks possibility. Sorry Opera, but there must be another solution. I’m back at 26.x now waiting for the next update.

          • https://github.com/rtws/ dqdb@rtws

            I’ve tested with F1 Live Timing and it’s working. But I had to install JRE 8u25. Check installed Java version because initially I had a previous version of Java and it wasn’t recognized by Opera.

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            Of course I have installed jre-8u25-windows-i586.exe and jre-8u25-windows-x64.exe on my W7x64 system. In Chrome and Firefox and with the old 26.x it works perfektly, but not with this 27. And I’m not the only one. I hope Opera will read our discussion and not only the first 10 reports.

    • pureocean

      Confirmed. (NT 5.2)

      • A. R.

        This is all because they have totally messed up how things used to be. Now we would want a slice of that back – the Opera – bring it back. Bring it back.

        Shame on you Opera team.

    • rufu2

      Confirmed, same OS, USB installation.
      Workaround as @Martin said: Change the theme! Weird….

  • Em-a-il

    What has happened to the Speeddial-folders? They are so black… http://i.imgur.com/Xi7slfi.png

    • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

      We are experimenting with them. This in an attempt to give you back the names of the folders

      • Em-a-il

        I think that they are a little to black…

      • Lacedaemon

        And this one has helped as well! * DNA-28248 Always show title of SpeedDials tiles from the same domain.

        (Although I’ll stick to thumbnails until the end of time just so you know it 🙂 )

        • Alex

          “from the same domain” – finally I understand why titles are only showed on some items. Thanks.

        • rufu2

          Yes, that is a step forward.
          Another improvement would be to show the tool-tip titles right on the icon when hovering, or in a popup next to the mouse. Because that’s where your eyes are looking, not down left.

  • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

    We still have Stash suggestions in flags!! you guys are so badass!!!

  • Lacedaemon

    It’s a bit crazy having to wait 2 months for the next stable release in order to use the right-click menu “Rename / Delete” on the left column menu folders, don’t you agree?
    Somebody in Opera has to re-evaluate this model.

    Also, my 2 cents on that Navigation Bar. People naturally look at the upper section of the monitor instead of the lower, so the previous solution was way much better.

    • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

      That is what happens with a frequent release cycle. Something other things have higher priority. We would have loved to release all planned improvements directly, but unfortunately, that was not possible

      • Lacedaemon

        That’s why I said it should be re-evaluated, and improved for small changes. It can’t be that hard patching such a small thing to the Stable, that is insane.

        • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

          Did you ever work on a big software project with over 10 million users? Nothing is simple.
          It’s also not really a small things either, to do such a change completely correct in high quality, you need at least 40 man-hours.
          We evaluated this a lot of times. The risks associated with back-porting new features is far, far greater than the possible benefit. There is nothing crazy about that.

          • Lacedaemon

            Ok you know better of course, in my eyes though that is not a new and risky feature, it’s an extra supplementary and probably very small paragraph of code in the already existing one. And 40 man hours is a person working 1 week on it, what’s the big deal? And you already do patches for bug fixes and stuff in Stable how is patching it in so dangerous?

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            > in my eyes though that is not a new risky feature,
            > it’s an extra paragraph of code in the already existing one

            I don’t mean to be rude, but: You have no clue what you are talking about. You are not a developer on this project, you haven’t seen the code and you have no data to asses the risks associated with this change. I gave you an honest answer about your question. I am the developer who implemented this. There is virtually nobody else who can tell you if this is complicated or not. If you just dismiss that with “Ok you know better of course”, I guess there is no reason to answer next time.

          • Lacedaemon

            You are not being rude at all, thanks for answering those. Take them as forms of rhetorical questions from somebody that is geniusly interested in the process and has already said that you know better of course 🙂

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            I guess I misunderstood “Ok you know better of course” to be meant sarcastically 🙂

          • Lacedaemon

            No! 😀

            sarcastically would be: “ooook… you know BETTER of course…. how did I forget that”

          • https://github.com/dqdb/opera-extensions dqdb

            … and adding at least two string resources to each language files
            … and testing all stuff in each language
            … and so on

            There are things that seem easy for non-developers which are not easy at all. And there are things that seem very-very difficult for non-developers which are really easy in fact.

          • Vux777

            …which are really in fact.

            easy to accomplish?

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            easy and time-consuming

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            So, can I ask you directly, given that you are the guy who is working on this, if we will ever have a bookmark sidebar like we had in the past? And a bookmark tree instead of just base level folders?

            I know we complain all the time, and let me say, once again, that I love Opera and I think it’s the best browser around. It’s just that one always focuses in the annoyances instead of the things that work smoothly. 😉

          • A. R.

            I guess my earlier hypothesis is answered here.

          • A. R.

            Stand out for more Google label all over text, they lack know-how and are bound by Google. And Google only got Opera ASA as partner to eat and destroy it. Opera is in parasitic symbiosis with Google and we all the old Opera users are suffering.

            There’s no other way to explain.

          • loxiw

            I appreciate that finally someone in Opera Team come here to speak out with the users, that’s been one of your biggest mistakes lately.

            Thanks and good job with this release, I hope sync will make it into 27 stable =)

          • A. R.

            I think not telling the truth, it’s something else.

            Back-posting diiba daaba… A feature is either coded or not. I think what recently from we’ve heard from Opera from between the lines is the know-how.

          • A. R.

            the lack of it.

          • Lacedaemon

            and the allocation of resources and man-power. It’s just too little and too slow.

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            Who is not telling the truth? Are you seriously suggesting we – or I – am lying?
            I also don’t get the rest of your answer.

      • A. R.

        Sounds like an unbelievable explanation, as frequent release cycle doesn’t necessary mean your model is working.

        Or what is working? Surely it’s been a 2 year pain almost those first on the betas and then at stable of the new Opera.

        And most people get the stable now that it’s out, but the condition that’s it been and the changes happened between O15 to O26 aren’t flattering at all – a lot of people have shifted to Chrome or Firefox, some even IE. So how do you take this development team Opera?

        • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

          Your first paragraph makes no sense. What “model” are you talking about?

          What “2 year pain” are you talking about?

          Chrome, Firefox and IE have the exact same cycle. And the numbers available to us actually speak a different language, the number of people using Opera for computers is increasing.

          If there is anything anyone can learn from O15+, it is that the quality of the rendering engine and the stability of the features is more important than awesome features. We are committed to awesome features, but we will not sacrifice quality for that.

          • Lacedaemon

            I don’t know the data you are interpreting, but netmarketshare shows you falling to 0.83% http://www.netmarketshare.com/report.aspx?qprid=1&qpaf=&qpcustom=Opera&qpcustomb=0&qpsp=170&qpnp=20&qptimeframe=M and most if all browser share websites show the same trend, that your share is declining every month.

          • A. R.

            very well then, yeah I do hope u get quality tweaked. Yes and i believe new awesome features are yet to come.

            But it’s not like we’re asking much. O30 should a full on browser client, but Opera is rather a viewer at this point.

            Well i assume mime types will be worked for O30? This is again something that seems easy yet people need to complain for over 10 full releases until we get even a lightest hunch of what’s coming, and still we get it wrong.

            Because there’s non in the first place?

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    Opera does not recognize the Java plugin. In ver. 26 it did, Chrome and FF still do. Try to open the webcam in http://www.swr3.de/studiocam-beta/?live=

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I’ve just installed Java here to test and everything seems to be running fine. http://www.java.com/en/download/installed8.jsp says that i have the latest Java.

      About that specific link in your comment, i got a security warning from java at the didn’t allow the applet to run.

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        The same here with Opera 26.x and all other browsers, but not with Opera 27. Not with an updated one (old profile) and not with a complete new and empty one, installed in a different folder. “Opera:plugins” doesn’t show the Java plugin.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Strange, now Java has gone from opera:plugins.

          Hmm, let me check something here.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Have you installed both 32 and 64 bits versions of Java?

          Here if i install only the 32 bits version, the plugin is recognized by Opera and seems to work fine. However, if i also install the 64 bits version then the plugin is not listed in opera:plugins.

          • Ralf Brinkmann

            Yes, I have installed the 32- AND the 64-bit version of Java because of my 64-bit Google Chrome. Maybe one day Opera will also publish a 64-bit version, then I need only one Java.

  • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

    You disabled uploading pictures, which limits my bug reporting capabilities. But, shouldn’t Bookmark subfolders better be displayed at the left panel too?

    • rufu2

      Yes, it should be a tree.

    • A. R.

      A tree is needed, and tab stacking.

  • Elzo Lubbers

    Nice, looking forward to syncing with tablet again. Also good to see bookmarks is still being worked on. Hoping for more improvements, and looking at this, who knows it might just happen.

  • Sidney Moraes
    • Em-a-il

      Scroll down a bit and you find the answer…

      thorbenb Mod Em-a-il • 17 minutes ago
      “We are experimenting with them. This in an attempt to give you back the names of the folders”

  • Peter Henkel

    Still no permanent pinned tabs?

  • João Gonçalves

    I don’t want to sync bookmarks between my phone and my computer. I have different needs in each platform. When I am on my computer I need a set of sites that I don’t need on my phone.
    What I want is to sync bookmarks between my computers. And then I want to sync phones to phones.
    All together is wrong.

    • João Gonçalves

      Also with Speed Dial. I don’t want a unified Speed Dial between devices.
      I what want is a unified Speed Dial on Opera for Computers, in all my computers.
      And then I want a unified Speed Dial across all my mobile devices.

      • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

        I guess everybody has a little bit of different use cases … what we will probably do is to make sure you have the same bookmarks everywhere, but keep speeddial and the bookmarks bar unique to each of your device. Like with the tabs, that would mean you have access to your home speeddials, but they will not replace your work speeddials.

        • HellBrick

          By the way. The Metro (or whatever it’s called these days) version of IE allows you to switch between the lists of the tabs opened on the different devices. The same mechanism works for the bookmarks as well. It looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/l7BJAy7.png
          I would like to see the similar idea implemented in Opera, probably as a set of synchronization options. How to sync the Speed dial? Merge and keep synchronized vs keep separated but allow switching between the different sets. How to sync the opened tabs? The same choice. How to sync the extensions?.. Etc.

          • A. R.

            Omg Opera doesn’t match to IE anymore, lol.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Just create two different accounts.

      • João Gonçalves

        That’s the workaround I’ve been using to avoid mixing Opera Mini Speed Dial with Opera for Computers Speed Dial.

  • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

    Fix this pleaseeee!!
    http://i.imgur.com/rCcOEaQ.jpg

    • zmwangx

      Well, I think batch deletion is a rare use case… After all, you add bookmarks one by one, and they are rather independent of each other (why would you take pains to add them one by one only to batch delete later?). If batch deletion is to be added, I suggest a confirmation dialog — AFAIK there’s no way back in the bookmark manager.

      • Alex

        It’s not only about batch deleting. You can’t move more than 1 item either, even if you select a few. Opening many bookmarks by selecting them doesn’t work either, but I don’t know if that was intended or if it’s still work in progress.

        • anonym

          > but I don’t know if that was intended or if it’s still work in progress.

          as they dont share their thaughts about this we will never really know

        • zmwangx

          Okay, I never needed to batch moving or opening, so please excuse my blind spots 🙂

          • Alex

            I sometimes move bookmarks from unsorted to a specific folder, if I quickly add bookmarks without selecting a folder. So I thought it would be great if I could move bookmarks of the same type at the same time. That’s when I found out it doesn’t work. Otherwise I wouldn’t know either 🙂

          • zmwangx

            Well I usually do it right the first time…

      • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

        In Firefox I have a side panel with many bookmark folders, computing, news, mail, etc. I want to check the news I can right-click that folder and have only those tabs opened.

        I want to do some social-network I do the same with that folder, etc.

        I want a temporary set of tabs to sync, I can even add them altogether to a temporary folder, have it synced, get home and open them, then delete them or keep some and delete others, multiple selection should serve a purpose.

        • zmwangx

          Then it’s not just about what you put in your screenshot anymore. Your screenshot and annotation are misleading.

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            Because Opera doesn’t offfer much.

        • zmwangx

          Btw, before your desired multi-features are implemented, you can always solve the problem with a little bit of scripting. That’s what I do for multiple URIs that I always open together. Syncing is harder, I know.

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            I’m a lawyer, Opera is intended for the general public.

          • zmwangx

            Yeah, I was just trying to suggest an alternative…

      • Lacedaemon

        Because sometimes you feel like deleting items that you used to find interesting in the past but not anymore?
        Anyway, batch operations are coming according to Daniel Aleksandersen an “undo’ or was requested 3 months ago and they ‘ve also said they would do something. Google already implemented “undo” in their identical version of BKM.

        • zmwangx

          > feel like deleting items that you used to find interesting in the past but not anymore…

          In that case I recommend taking the pains to delete entries one by one. One delete costs you one click and saves you unwanted removals. (If you already reviewed each entry before you selected them, then it costly roughly the same amount of time as deleting one by one.)

          Not being able to move multiple items at once is pretty stupid, though.

          > batch operations are coming…

          They are coming, but you never know when they actually arrive 😉

          • Dave-H

            There is a workaround, just select the entries you want to delete, and hit Ctrl+X to “cut” them. If you don’t paste them back, they’re gone!
            🙂

          • zmwangx

            That’s more of a bug then a workaround actually 😉

            (Well, that does reveal that moving multiple entries at once is possible, which I was not aware of.)

          • Dave-H

            You can cut, copy and paste stuff around at will in the bookmarks manager, but there are no right click options at present, you have to use Ctrl+X, Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V. I hope the right click options, which should be standard, are added soon.
            And yes, the delete option should work on multiple selections!

          • zmwangx

            Yeah, since no click option was present, I didn’t even try the keyboard shortcuts before you pointed out the “workaround” (shortcuts usually only exist after longcuts are there…). The shortcuts are nice though, I hate clicking around.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            But a tree, and the possibility to drag, would be the natural thing.

          • Lacedaemon

            ehmm… Shift+Del works also 🙂

          • Dave-H

            Thanks, I didn’t realise that Shift+Delete worked, but that’s hardly very intuitive. If the “delete” option on the right click menu is greyed out, and “delete” does nothing either, I’m sure most people would assume that the option wasn’t available at all!

          • Lacedaemon

            Yep, that’s what I also said about it some time ago, but they didn’t do squat about it.

          • Janek H

            I, for example, deleted once about 1000 imdb links, when imdb decided to provide online lists management. Deleting these one by one would take about about an hour constant clicking…

          • zmwangx

            I said “rare use case” instead of “impossible use case”. Not to nit pick, but your use case is also due to improper management on your part. Storing a thousand links from the same source as bookmarks is insane — it only slows down your browser. What you should do is store them as plain text, which is you and your computer’s friend. Therefore, worrying about this use case is like worrying about newlines in filenames (without any security concerns in this case).

            On the other hand, batch moving is much more common. If batch moving is implemented, then the unlikely case of bulk deletion is also covered — you create a folder “to-be-deleted”, move multiple bookmarks there, and zap the newly created folder.

            Anyway, this discussion is purely theoretical now. If you read this thread, you’ll find out that batch movement and deletion are already implemented; they’re just hidden as hot keys (ctrl/cmd+c/x/v, shift+del).

          • Janek H

            Your suggestion to copy-paste my IMDb links (and movie year and movie name and director and actors and keywords – all of these are automatically stored in bookmarks meta-data) into a text file is bit absurd, don’t you think? And i have about 3000 links in my bookmarks (O12) right now – no sign of slowing down.

            Anyway, it was simply an example of use-case where deleting multiple items is necessary. And yes, i know now from previous comments in this thread that shift+del should work.

            Batch-everything should be made accessible from UI. Moving, deleting, opening. I frequently open entire folder or selected ~20-40 links.

          • zmwangx

            It’s not absurd. It’s just that you are not used to the better workflow. Once you do you’ll benefit from that.

            I suggest that you read an article “The Case Against Everything Buckets” (https://al3x.net/2009/01/31/against-everything-buckets.html). It’s about everything buckets, but the idea is the same with whether you should throw all kinds of stuff into your bookmarks manager. (I feel like it’s a good read for everyone, laymen and power users alike.)

            > Batch-everything should be made accessible from UI.

            I agree.

          • Janek H

            It’s ridiculously off-topic now. But your suggestion would have brought hardcore manual labour instead of ctrl+d. And as I said, I already moved these to dedicated application when the option became available. Everything else is neatly categorized into folders and subfolders.

          • zmwangx

            You suggested a ridiculous use case and I suggested a real fix. That’s it. “Hardcore manual labour” — not hard at all, if you know what to do. Several key strikes and you are all set, and you can manage them however you like later rather than stuck with the browser. Let’s call it here.

      • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

        Batch MOVE, on the other side, is fairly common.

        • zmwangx

          As noted above/below, you can batch move with standard copy/cut/paste shortcuts. Not very obvious, though.

          • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

            Yes, and I’ve already said below that dragging a bunch of bookmarks or folders to the new destination would be the natural thing. But thanks, I didn’t know about the shortcuts previously. 🙂

          • A. R.

            O30 is the citical milestone, it’s WIN or LOSE 🙂

        • rufu2

          Definitely.
          Right now, the bookmark manager is really more of a “viewer” than a “manager”. Old Opera and all the browsers I know have a dedicated “manage bookmarks” mode that is different from the standard use-and-view mode. To combine the two could be a great innovation, but it could turn out to be a disaster, too 😉

          • A. R.

            yes most of the browser is just at a viewer point right now. It’s nowhere near perfect browser client yet, and looks like O30, a milestone, won’t be either.

  • Кostadin

    10 new flags if I remember correctly 🙂

  • João Gonçalves

    There an annoying bug if we scroll down in Facebook page. The top bar will be jumping up and down 1 pixel. It is very distracting.
    This also happens in YouTube’s top bar.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      On FB it only happens if the scroll bar is used. Same for YT.

      • João Gonçalves

        In me, happens with the mouse scroll wheel in every site that has a top bar.

  • Wando Schneider

    This is a impressive release! Any plans for SD sync? The bug with print preview and the chrome pdf still remains.

  • Wando Schneider

    While navigate in Discover, and open a internal page, Opera re-use this tab… it shouldn’t.

  • Vux777

    instant crash when clicking on url badge …on any site
    win 10×64

    EDIT: experimental address bar flag is causing it

    • Vux777

      + badge is missing on all sites

  • Druszlak

    That’s new, looks promising:

    http://i62.tinypic.com/10cth6f.jpg

    • Lacedaemon

      Not at the bottom though. It has to be at the top like it is now. You can enable the flag about Navigation Bar to see it also in your startpage.

      • Druszlak

        In last build this flag did nothing, so they’re working on this feature. I also hope they’ll move it to the top.

        • Sidney Moraes

          I hope the I hope the transition animation becomes smoother.

          • SuuperTommy

            Of course.

      • Wando Schneider

        I like in the bottom.

        • Druszlak

          Looks better then on the left side, that’s for sure.

          • Lacedaemon

            Surely better.

        • Lacedaemon

          You like tab bars in the bottom as well?

          • Wando Schneider

            On the left it uses too much space. Imagine maintain the bar on bookmarks manager… it will be bizarre. At the bottom, is a nice place, look the theme page for instance. It’s not intrusive, don’t waste too much content space and can be always visible. But that’s just what i think, I respect your opinion.

          • A. R.

            Depends on monitor too, while many average users still have 4:3 CRT’s etc. a lot of people have “wide-screen” monitors where indeed there is a lot of space on sides, but not up nor bottom that much..

          • Wando Schneider

            For the record, i have a wide-screen monitor and i still liked on the bottom.

          • A. R.

            each has they’re own view. I used to use XP taskbar at top just to make ti sense with tabs and menus etc. With win 7 pro x64, i53570K, HD7850, DDR3-1800, Intel SSD & chipset – MSI MB.

          • Wando Schneider

            In matter of fact, i’m imagining this bottom bar be consistent in SD, BKM, and all the internal pages. Removing the text, only displaying icons (extensions, themes, settings..).. it will be great!

          • Lacedaemon

            If that would be the case I would prefer it to be an overlay (on every webpage) so that you could go wherever you ‘d want to at any time! That would also make sense for being in the bottom.

          • Wando Schneider

            Now you saw my point of view 🙂

          • Lacedaemon

            Only in that particular case though where it is even in webpages available, otherwise I would prefer it as it is now 🙂

      • A. R.

        This must not be only start page functionality because start page is so restricted.

    • A. R.

      Yes we’re loving this, but has to have option to choose sides or up/down for location.

  • https://github.com/dqdb/opera-extensions dqdb

    How can I disable the integrated PDF reader? I have installed a PDF viewer on my computer, but I haven’t installed any PDF plugins (intentionally). When I save a PDF file and I try to open it from the download list, Opera always opens it in the integrated viewer. I have to open the download folder in Windows Explorer to use my external standalone application.

    • Lacedaemon

      ehm, go to opera://plugins/ and disable Chrome PDF Viewer?

      • https://github.com/dqdb/opera-extensions dqdb

        Thanks.

      • A. R.

        Should be disabled from get go because of security reasons.

        Also if I download Opera, I don’t want to download anything google. That’s why I downloaded Opera in the first place, this new one, old Presto I used for soo many years.

        i remember that many of my friends used too, but now I’m the only one, everyone is using Chrome these days, and the stats proves that.

    • PaulW

      I have the opposite problem. I can’t open any PDFs from a link. I use Foxit reader and have reinstalled it just in case. Works fine on O12, Chrome, Firefox and IE..

    • A. R.

      Both the integrated pdf and flash plugins are GOOGLE-viruses.

      Please use available alternatives.

  • netmain

    well, thank you guys for the new dev release!
    I have to say,the upgrade didn’t go well in my side, I had to start with a fresh profile ( had a hard freeze, even after deleting the preferences file in the profile folder + cleaning all cache.. etc).
    Even though, none of the sync buttons works, I can’t login to my account to start the sync!

    windows 10 TP 32bit, fresh install

  • Alex

    I’ve been waiting for the right-click menu in Bookmarks Manager! Thank you!

    Hopefully soon we’ll be able to add separators between folders and also view subfolders in the sidebar.

    I wish I could use the sync feature. It looks promising, yet I still don’t feel I should switch back to Opera on my android.

    The folders in Speed Dial are now transparent and they’re lacking the 4 previews. I hope this is a change and not a bug, because I like it! 😀

    As for the “Help improve Opera by sending feature usage information” option being ticked by default… still sneaky 🙂 I would assume that someone who disabled that option would like to keep it disabled after an upgrade as well.

    • Mister

      Yes, give us separators! )

      • A. R.

        Yes, but it’s not just eye-candy that we need. We need features and we need them big time.

  • Lacedaemon

    Tab menu is now Ctrl+M

    • A. R.

      We also need private tab along with other tab improvements.

  • x a

    Would please finally someone be so kind to elaborate on your approach on synchronization?

    How do you start syncing new machines that happen to come with their own virgin-un-synced items? Are they added as unique? Is their hierarchy merged? What kind of duplicate check is performed, what would be the criteria?

    What are you doing in case edit conflicts occurred, for example if two seemingly synced have the same item edited while being offline?

    How can user remove eg bookmarks from one machine without risking clearing the entire synced database for all machines? (When you installed a clean version of Opera12 back in the days and deleted all default bookmarks, then enabled sync aka Link, Link would promote a “clear all” to all machines and the online Link database, leaving you with everything deleted and lost.)

    I’d be rather interested in getting answers without having to resort to trial and error analysis, possibly “ruining” not only my (hopefully backuped bookmarks), but also my Opera (sync) account.

    • Maciej Pawlowski

      Hi
      When you’re syncing a virgin browser to an account that already has some bookmarks, the hierarchies are merged. Duplicates are found via comparing title and url (only title for folders). Bookmarks that were not present on the server are added as new. The merge is additive, you should never lose data when connecting to sync for the first time. Of course, bookmarks and folders that already existed on the server but did not have duplicates on the virgin client are downloaded and added locally.

      We don’t have this “clear all” instruction now, you won’t lose data that way any more 😉 You can just delete bookmarks like you would normally, the deletion actions are issued with specific, unique bookmark ids so only the right ones should be removed.

  • Philip

    Nice, Sync is growing up!

  • Biohazard
    • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

      I made DNA-29180 for this. Thanks!

    • Alex

      Is that a folder? Because I hoped it was not a bug…

  • http://blog.homisite.com/ HomiSite

    I like that syncing is slowly coming into place, but besides that I still hope each release for a really new feature – and not a solution for non-existing problems like e.g. the new bookmark manager whose simplicity really hurts its usability (in comparison to Opera 12). And you still can’t search your bookmarks via address bar! BTW: I just encountered that the O12 feature for a history with site content is missing, too… The new Opera aims for mainstream users (although this market is IMO already blocked by Chrome and Firefox), but helpful features like the ones mentioned before are missing and/or often half-assed. It is such a pity!

    PS: As always more from O12: Image properties, (central) site preferences, flexible Autofill, click2plugin button, text selection within links (!!!) etc.

  • Shion

    Just add AD filters to Opera Mini. Your new mobile Opera is too fat and unstable to be called “mobile”. Crashing on restore, tab change and simple dynamic contents. I checked many android browsers, but based on number of crashes – Opera leads by a ****ing mile.

    Suggestion to Opera lead developers: put your whole team on 1Ghz Celeron PC’s with 512Mb RAM on. You will then have both excuse for being slow and a chance to see and improve optimisation of your browser. Not joking here btw.

  • MarkG54321

    Not really happy with the way bookmarks look. It seem unnatural dead-end Speed Dial and Discover pane on the left disappears when you go into bookmarks, and you have been transformed into a page that needs a back. Feels really unnatural.

    • L33t4opera

      Hi, you can try the “WebUI navigation bar”: go to the address bar, and type “opera://flags/#webui-navigation-bar”, press enter, select “Enabled” from the dropdown box, and restart the Opera 😉

    • A. R.

      Too big. Well I guess they will be tweaking the bookmarks viewer/manager quite a bit as it wasn’t in root code. But please don’t introduce trimming as new features.

  • nom4d3

    Has been a while that my keyboard simply stops working when I’m testing Opera. This is a known bug or it’s happening just for me? As Opera is not my primary browser anymore, I’m not that concerned but this is really annoying. This is happening in two different computers.

    • nom4d3

      Win7 64bits. Sometimes I just can’t type anything in any kind of textfield.

      • Leonardo Gomes

        Have you enabled any flags by chance?

        • nom4d3

          At home I know it’s everything default. I will try a clean installation later to be sure there’s nothing related to these flags.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            I asked because there is a flag that makes text input stop working, at least here.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/max1cp?feature=mhum Maxim

    Can we please get an option to use bookmarks as a start page instea of speed dial and not lose our session in restart?

    • Vorpal

      Yep. Actually I don’t see any strong need in speed dial separately from bookmarks manager. They are not so different, both store a links to favorite sites, so Opera can combine it in one. Make SD is something like just a special start page of BM so we can always see left bar with bookmarks folders and other stuff without making an extra click and without switching to another entity.

  • Anton Chelnokov

    still cannot sync bookmarks from home and work.
    both got error:
    cannot connect – will retry later…

    auth with google

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Much better solution, sync your Firefox bookmarks, then import them with Opera, at least that works.

  • Wraith

    Nice, hope this come to iOS version too.. Opera is getting better!

  • Martin

    Using the grey “no-theme”, bookmarks crashes instantly for me.

  • Nekomajin43

    With sync is growing, will you add options to choose what to sync? This all or nothing approach is not the best. What if I want to sync my tabs but not my bookmarks? What’s more, what if I want to sync certain folders of my bookmarks, but I don’t want to sync other folders? Will you have a solution for this?

    • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

      Xmarks.

      • Nekomajin43

        So there are bookmarks and sync built in Opera, but I have to use an extension? No way.

        • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

          Opera’s Sync will likely never be able to sync with other browsers, which Xmarks does. Also, it already has the feature you want.

          • Nekomajin43

            I don’t want to sync between different browsers.

  • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

    Mobile team rocks.

  • ahoj1234

    I’m about to start using bookmarks instead of SD (don’t blame me that I have never used bookmarks before… SD and tabgrouping was enough to me)

    And since visual bookmarks I wanna change my startpage from SD to bookmarks. If I can remember there was a flag saying something about changing startpage a while ago or what… and some say that they have changed the startpage to bookmars (instead of SD).

    So any tips how can I change my startpage? Can’t find it in any prefs. (no matter if some settings or editing files) thanks in advance

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Address bar doesn’t autocomplete from your bookmarks, I feel like a complete idiot starting to type and seeing it getting ready to google-search something I already bookmarked. The one reason I have to stick to Speed Dial.

      If you’re ok having to click to do anything then go ahead.

      But I noticed a new flag about a new experimental address bar, at this point I won’t even complain if the so called “experiment” is about autocompletion, seriously I’ll be totally grateful if that’s the case.

      It’d even be hilarious when Opera announces O27 with this as a groundbreaking and innovative feature.

      • ahoj1234

        that’s a good point of view. Though, far from what I was asking for 😀 if/where can I set custom startpage. (change SD for bookmarks as default).

        Anyway, I agree about searching. Hopefully they will introduce it soon since you can already search in bookmarks it should be question of time when it goes to address bar (autocomplete) as well. Sure, we should be able to dis/able this feature but this autocomplete connected with bookmars would be great for all platforms

        • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala
          • ahoj1234

            you are trying, thanks 🙂 but Nekomajin43’s post is about what I wanted to know.
            My english is not perfect so we probably misunderstood each other 🙂 I just want different “start page” (the page after “ctrl+T or (+) new tab open), I use and always will “start when I exit” here. 🙂

          • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

            Ok, then use the term “new tab page”. =)

            And at least for Bookmarks you can press ctrl + shift + B. It somewhat works the way you want.

          • ahoj1234

            I need imminent focus on address bar. So “ctrl+shift+B” is only opening bookmarks and I would have to use another shortcut to focus address bar… I know, it’s hard with me 😀 but I reported a “bug” to the extension developer and hopefully he will fix it for his extension and I will be happy (or Opera implement the API sooner and I will be even happier)

        • Lacedaemon

          I remember someone yesterday or the day before pointing at this extension for doing that. https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/custom-home-page/?display=en

          • ahoj1234

            yeah, we found a solution (as you can see in this thread) that is close to the perfection. But has 2 show-stoppers but thanks 🙂

      • https://github.com/dqdb/opera-extensions dqdb

        Install Bookmark Search extension from Chrome store. You have to use the “bm” prefix for searching in bookmarks, but it works perfectly.

      • A. R.

        O26 already is a laughing stock, and what they have proved between O15 to 027 – do not expect much of anything in many releases, it seems.

        • Helge Andre Gjølme

          Please provide constructive feedback.
          Random whining like this does not motivate anyone in any way.

          • A. R.

            Sorry. I’ll try to improve. I’m not only tweaking myself, I’m gonna introduce a new side of myself 😉

    • Nekomajin43

      There is a chrome API which let’s you override default internal pages, but Opera does not support it yet.

      There is an addon which auto-redirects from the startpage, but it’s kind of laggy. https://addons.opera.com/extensions/details/custom-home-page/

      There is an other addon which opens a new tab with the pre-set URL, but you have to use the button of the addon, because it does not override the default startpage. So the + button, the mouse gesture and the Ctrl+T hotkey still opens the default startpage. https://addons.opera.com/extensions/details/homepage-in-new-tab/

      • ahoj1234

        ahh, so the only option is wait for Opera devs or use redirects… (since I always use “ctrl+T”). I really though the flag was here… they probably remove it or discontinue “developing” for this option.
        so thanks for the response.

        • https://github.com/dqdb/opera-extensions dqdb

          There is a third option, but it is of course the ugliest way 🙂 You have to override the default behavior of Ctrl+T and assign it to an extension. It requires manual editing of the Preferences file in your profile folder. Sould I continue with the detailed description?

          You can speed up the redirection of the first extension (Custom Home Page) by deleting all of your speed dial entries. I was thinking of writing this advice to the description before submitting that extension, but I found it too harsh.

    • A. R.

      Wait for tab stacking.

  • Lacedaemon

    In the BKM matrix of let’s say 5×2, moving item/folder from 1,2 ; 1,3 and on into folder 2,1 is very awkard and almost impossible without moving the item/folder FIRST over 1,1 and then to 2,1.

    This should be fixed!

  • ahoj1234

    FEATURE REQUEST:
    (since I started experimenting with bookmarks like a few minutes ago)

    Could you please have a talk (at lunch or somewhere…) about:

    1) changing bookmarks preview via bookmark manager (in edit mode).
    http://i.imgur.com/TefTHlj.jpg

    2) delete a bookmark (from bookmarks) via heart icon.
    http://i.imgur.com/hMBXNom.jpg

    (sorry for the quality of the close (x) button)

    3) get smaller thumbnails /more in 1 column/ WITHOUT resizing the text on the left (panel)

    • ahoj1234

      just used old Opera (in college’s library) and…
      for tabs: reimplement the “blue dot” (or shaped corners) like good opera has! 🙂 – used for knowledge that something new was “loaded” on the page(tab).

      • Cjcr

        Oh yes, it was a great feature! Hope it comes to the new Opera!

        • A. R.

          as we all do 🙂 hope

    • Herr Pietrus

      Yes, yes and yes
      Smaller thumbnails in bookmarks manager will be very nice. I’ve written about it a few builds before 🙂

  • Саня Коваль

    Are you going to implement MIME types setup like in Opera 12? It’s really annoing that I can’t setup what my browser should do with some file types…

    • Patata Johnson

      no, such option would confuse average user, so no chance 😉

  • Joe Gutiérrez

    I found these bugs in W7 (32-bit):

    1.Speed Dial folders problem:
    https://www.anonimg.com/img/1c31b8304e469962a9622dfaa0fb1075.jpg
    2.Synchronization pop-over does not open (most times) while Windows Aero is enabled.
    3.Tab Menu does not ”pop” while Windows Aero is enabled.
    4.The Importing Tool ”freezes” while importing data from Chrome.
    5.”Minimize” button doesn’t work while Windows Aero is disabled.
    6.Disqus login pop-up freezes.

    • Alex

      There is a problem with folders in Speed Dial, but everything else works fine here (W7x32 as well). I can’t test 4. though.

      • ahoj1234

        @JoeGD21:disqus and the SD folder problem is already known (DNA-29180) 🙂

      • Joe Gutiérrez

        Hmmm… Everything is working in Opera Beta 26 and was working Opera Developer 26. So, the problem is with Opera 27, I think…

        • Alex

          Hmmm that’s something I can’t confirm… I only use the latest version of Developer, so I can’t test anything in beta, but as far as I remember everything on your list (excepting importing from other browsers) worked well in 26.

          Maybe it’s something to do with any of the new flags? Did you enable any flag when you upgraded to 27?

          • Joe Gutiérrez

            Nope, no new flags, and also, I disabled all the flags I enabled before , but nothing changed.

          • Alex

            I’m wondering what’s wrong then…

  • András Ács

    Intense tearing on resizing (non-composited) window is now gone, nice!

    Spending more and more time in Opera, I enjoy it (but still prefer Firefox for development, in part for its tab management; sea of collapsed favicons w/o search don’t cut it). Just put my girlfriend on the Linux Beta two builds ago, she likes the speed dial and tab previews, thinks the latter is useful and modern (one additional data point FYI:)

  • Dave-H

    Good to see that folder re-naming in the bookmarks manager is now much easier, but can we please be allowed to rename “My Folders”?
    I really don’t like that, it reminds me horribly of Microsoft’s “My Computer”, “My Pictures”, “My Music” etc., which I also hated and which they have now dropped!

    • A. R.

      Word.

      • Dave-H

        ??

  • Cyrris

    Some good changes here.

    Are we getting any closer to adding Speed Dial in as a special bookmark subfolder like the Bookmarks Bar is already? This would solve my problem of switching from a heavily-foldered speed dial setup to the new bookmarks system, and I think would just be a logical and flexible way to better manage all of my collected URLs if I decide to start changing where things are later on.

    • ahoj1234

      or just/at least “right click” on SD folders with an option “Add this folder to bookmarks (as bookmark folder)”. You can manage it afterwards.

      Better than 1 custom folder in bookmarks for all SD folders without possibility to move something away (since it had to be connected).

  • John Rambo

    Good idea with that tabs beetwen computers!
    Btw. still no tab stacking and bookmarks tree 🙁
    I hope you are working on it.

    • A. R.

      We all hope. The discussion in this thread have been the best in many months.

  • Marko Koivuniemi

    I just installed Opera 12.17 for my default browser – copied back profile folder from december 2011 and tried to import bookmarks to Opera developer. It doesn’t regognize Opera Presto and offered import from IE and Chrome. So it exported my bookmarks from Opera Presto to .html and that I managed to import to Opera developer.

    • ahoj1234

      you have to just instal 32 bit O12 (or rename folder by deleting “x64”). and it can’t be USB/standalone install (so it has to be standard install). It should work then without any problems.

      • Marko Koivuniemi

        Yes it works. Annoying “feature” of import.

  • http://classicalmusicmayhem.freeforums.org Rodders

    I would like to comment but the freekin’ installer is giving me nothing after hours of trying…

    • http://classicalmusicmayhem.freeforums.org Rodders

      Cancel that, it eventually updated itself.

  • Lacedaemon

    I’m experiencing with the new dev build the same behavior as in O26 as well. Doesn’t happen with Stable. (W7/64-bit)

    When I open new SD tabs with (+) there is a delay in opening of new SD tabs (white blink of about 0.2-0.3 sec) each time.

    Opening a New Window from the O-menu and doing the same (in the new window) does not result in any delay, the new SD tabs load instantly.

    Now if I close the first window, and do the same in the new window, SD tabs open with delay again. (initial behavior)

  • Leonardo Gomes

    New flags:

    Experimental address bar
    Windows
    Enables the experimental address bar.
    #experimental-addressbar

    Extension minimum_opera_version manifest field
    Mac, Windows, Linux
    Enables the support for extension minimum_opera_version manifest field.
    #extension-minimum-opera-version

    Speech synthesis
    Mac, Windows, Linux
    Enables speech synthesis Javascript API (text-to-speech part of the Javascript Speech API).
    #speech-synthesis

    Enable the experimental Credential Manager API.
    Mac, Windows, Linux
    disabled
    Enables an experimental implementation of the Credential Manager API. No promises that this won’t expose all your passwords to every site on the web; don’t enable this unless you know what you’re doing.
    #enable-credential-manager-api

    Enable Plugin Power Saver.
    Mac, Windows, Linux
    Enables experimental power saver mode for peripheral plugin content.
    #enable-plugin-power-saver

    • Zik

      I dont get what’s make last flag.

  • Dave-H

    Can I make a request that when you’re navigating around the folders in the bookmark manager, the “back” button on your mouse, if you have one, should take you back to the last level you were on in the bookmarks manager rather than backing you out of the bookmarks manager completely?
    I keep forgetting this and it’s very annoying!

  • http://syncoriginals.com Sync Originals

    CRASH 🙂 BOOMM! Menu Bookmarks Show All Bookmarks ( 3x ),. All Extensions were disable by Opera on restart. ANY POINTERS?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      No crashes here. I’m on Win10.

      • A. R.

        Looks like Themes aren’t working with the client just like bookmarks have a lot of trouble too (working with the client).

    • Martin

      Try changing theme, are you using the grey theme?

      • http://syncoriginals.com Sync Originals

        Never changed theme. Mac Yosemite. mpb 500gb 6mb ram. never had problems with developer since bookmarks implemented

        • Lacedaemon

          Try changing it to something else as a workaround until they fix it, as Martin already suggested.

          • http://syncoriginals.com Sync Originals

            done, it work. Opera White 🙂 txs

      • rufu2

        Thank you! This works for me on Win7 x64 Usb install
        Interestingly, I can’t switch back to a default theme, it crashes.

    • A. R.

      Bookmarks has a lot of problems because:

      1) Bookmarks where completely banned from the new Opera first development.

      2) They had several releases (O15 to O2x) before bookmarks feature was implemented to the new Opera.

      3) Only rather those they are able to develop what were planned from the get go, nothing new isn’t coming.

      4) So bookmarks is a separate process even attached to the browser client, very badly implemented. It breaks down from many many switches if one uses.

  • RX-3200

    some extensions are still looks broken on extensions bar :
    “ContentBlockHelper” and “Stylebot” show “grey”(not left-clickable) buttons on extensions bar …
    all of them work fine in Opera to 26.0.1655.0
    it was broken in 26.0.1656.5 & not fixed in this Dev 27
    so it’s DNA-29191

  • adkiller

    Any roadmap for an Opera Win64 release?

    • A. R.

      Bugger, i would want x64 too, Opera 12.x 64-bit was awesome. I had 200 tabs open in neatly packets in stacks 🙂 It wasn’t much of a memory hungry, and it was stable, fully stable, with just 1 process (+container).

  • Jorton

    So many comments, ha. Well, Syncing finally comes out of water. Do you guys have plans to reuse Opera link or will we need to bear even longer? Actually, I have made a new bookmark file during “bearing you guys”. Anyway, come on!!

  • #GilbertoBurgos

    Opera Crew, I´m only here to said… you´re the best….

  • Cidel Fastro

    After updating from the previous dev build I get instant and constant crashes every time I try to access my bookmarks. Also crashes when trying to change themes

    • Springer

      It’s the same i am experiencing.

    • ahoj1234

      not here.
      w8.1 x64 (standalone install).

      PS: I tried to log on to “opera synch” servers if the crash will not appear but I only got my unsorted bookmarks “resorted” in the folder (position change) – not sure what type, probably by adding time from last->new (before it was new->last)

    • Martin

      Try changing theme, are you using the grey theme?

      • Lacedaemon

        Happens with most default skins, ehm themes I mean, yes.

        • A. R.

          Ur right about that it’s skins. The navigation buttons doesn’t even have alternatives I mean more stuff more buttons to more features, like key button and bookmarks menu button.

      • Cidel Fastro

        I was but changing it didn’t help. Thanks though

    • rufu2

      Had the same, and Martins tip worked, but only with a theme from the internet, not with a default theme.

  • Kurt Zon

    Syncing Bookmarks with Android – hey this really works!!
    Nice..

  • https://myspace.com/bluezzbastardzz Hans-Jürgen Bardenhagen

    Thanks for the context menu in sidebar items, I think it is more intuitive this way than the other options to delete a folder. Still cannot get used to the new start page with meaningless icons and colors, so I switched back to the old one with speed dial thumbnails.

    • oCircuit

      I’m so glad that there are now icons in speed dial. Thumbnails for me personally are a desaster.

      • https://myspace.com/bluezzbastardzz Hans-Jürgen Bardenhagen

        It’s of course a matter of taste or what you are used to, e.g. desktop monitors vs. smartphones touch screens. But for me the new icons with changing (?) colors are too anonymous compared to the 16 site thumbnails I have in my speed dial which are still big enough to recognise the content immediately.

      • rufu2

        Good to see two different opinions right next to each other. The best solution IMHO would be to allow the user to choose between icons and screenshots for every single item on the speed dial.

    • A. R.

      Yeah the start page is like is like Discover 😀

      I might use the start page but i want an option to see thumbs or icon of the website rather than how Opera is default doing it.

      So what’s with the start page? IS there going to be a start to something? Where are jumping us? Will it be flip flopping again?

  • YemSalat

    New feature request/idea.
    When clicking on the tab – scroll the page to the top.
    When click again – scroll back to the place where I was before the first click.

    • rufu2

      Hm, interesting idea.
      But what I expect when clicking on the current tab is to go back to the last tab. That was a feature on Prestopera, and it’s stuck in my motor memory.

      • YemSalat

        What do you mean by “go back to the last tab” ? Go back in history?

        • rufu2

          No, go back to the last active tab. You had to set “click a tab to minimize it” in the extra tab options, and maybe also to set “activate last active tab on closing a tab”.

          • A. R.

            Yes they need to bring back all that option-fullness, why can’t we have all options available? Why the huge lock down of the client in O15-O27?

    • A. R.

      Something like this and a lot of more & beyond are the things that make Opera unique and feature rich.

      But the progress is that they are struggling with path, and are actually removing features and options, the user might get confused if there is an option to relocate cache… Go figure ~

  • Lacedaemon

    @thorbenb

    When I create a New folder in the BKM to use it as a subfolder in an existing folder so that I can put my bookmarks quickly and efficient there, there MUST be a way to move it to that particular folder directly, without having to:

    1. leave current folder and go to “My Folders”,
    2. take the newly created folder and move it into the folder of interest
    3. click on folder of interest

    a) Either you need a button like “New Folder” somewhere on the top that can create a folder directly into the current folder http://postimg.org/image/cktpblnvt/full/

    or

    b) Folders from the left column can be dragged and dropped to the right (only the opposite is currently possible)

    or

    c) Folders in the left column can be dragged and dropped into each other (requires hierarchy)

    If you are not willing to do anything with hierarchy at least do a) or b) please!

  • taneli

    Ooooh for fucks sake, once again my search engines have been replaced by these bullshit general search engines, that i don’t even want.
    Seriously, get those damn search engines sorted already, we don’t need any advertised bullshit search engines.

    It’s already bad enough that we can’t change the default search engine, but these other ones rewriting our custom ones on every damn update.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Replaced how? Here my custom search engines were never replaced.

  • taneli

    PPAPI and NPAPI has got so many problems in Opera, and the only problem with the HTML5 in youtube with the browser is, it won’t start reloading videos if you pause them for a moment, other browsers do start loading the video again after pause on HTML5, why is this?

    • icetom

      HTML5 does not show me 1080p resolutions.

      and the 60fps thing worked 1 day and the next day i dont see it anymore.
      i have extensions deactivated to try, same result

      • Lacedaemon

        Try this with HTLM5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3ny9zIckP0&list=PLbsGxdAPhjv9UrLo19pS8teoRKj7funAy&index=1
        You must have the bandwidth though >50Mbit I’d say for watching it smoothly.

        • icetom

          this links works, however if i type in search “60fps”, many of the videos marked as such do not show me a 60fps option at all

          • Lacedaemon

            You ‘re right, videos that are webm/vp9 are playing @60fps and those that are mp4/avc are not, so that must be the missing MSE & H.264 implementation in Opera.

          • icetom

            yes thats also my guess

    • A. R.

      ALERT, STOP PRESS, HAZARD, HORROR

      The flash and pdf plugins that are built in Chopera are google-viruses.

      Please disable them for good and use regular alternatives.

  • Berend

    Java doesn’t seem to work in this version. Anyone have the same problem?

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Yes, I already remarked it. The plugin is not recognized.

      • Berend

        Thanks.

  • taneli

    How ’bout an ability to remove the X from tabs? With a lot of tabs it’s easy to press it accidentally, and the gradient fadeout of the title could be removed with it.

    This is almost 50% of the tab wasted with the X and the fade-out:
    https://i.imgur.com/3jvHxw8.jpg

    • icetom

      let people decide to switch on /off like in Opera 12

      • taneli

        Indeed.

      • A. R.

        Opera 12 isn’t render-able anymore. Try to use it a day, half of websites don’ render correctly at all.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Hmm, with that amount of tabs only the active one has the “x” button.

      I think that an option to remove the button would be interesting.

      • A. R.

        Would it? What is needed. Obviously sync is big and good that it’s being done at this stage, but what else is there?

        Like they just kicked tab preview off. I think there is a hurry in tab handling feature now that we don’t have a viable one.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Would it? What is needed.

          Well, at least for me it’s not something with top priority but i would welcome such feature.

          Like they just kicked tab preview off.

          They just turned it off by default. Anyone can (re)enable it.

          • A. R.

            They say average users doesn’t know how to… Go figure ~

    • A. R.

      No it needs to be like it used to be – all options available 🙂

  • Dark Magician
  • Marko Koivuniemi

    Not Opera’s fault but new Google Drive doesn’t support Opera – but seems to work just fine. https://support.google.com/drive/answer/2375082?p=system_requirements&rd=1

    • Wando Schneider

      The “Inbox by gmail” too. I already reported it to Google, but i think that’s Google’s strategy to get more users for chrome.

  • Jorton

    I found a very interesting bug. When two websites having identical address such as “google.com” are in the speed dial, their names will not hide automatically. I was trying to put a screenshot here but failed.

    • https://github.com/rtws/ dqdb@rtws

      This is in fact a feature 🙂 DNA-28248 Always show title of SpeedDials tiles from the same domain.

      IMHO a configurable option for displaying speed dial item titles in advanced settings with values “always”, “when needed”, “never should” whould be a much better solution. And I would use “always”.

      • Jorton

        Thanks, how to set it?

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Afaik, you don’t set it. If you have two SD from the same domain, the page title will be shown in the “icon”.

          • Jorton

            yeah, I know the title is to tell the difference if they have the same icons. Does it make sense? So, it could be better to put all the titles on the SD icons.

      • Cjcr

        A feature that looks really ugly. Is much better show titles for all SD 🙂

  • beBoss

    Crash on flash videos?
    Clean install of Windows 10 (x64), Opera and Flash.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      No crashes here. Same OS.

    • A. R.

      Youtube is sluggerish. The page doesn’t always answer while the tab does – as for solution I can close the tab, or reload it, but that’s not the way it should work. But yes utube is unresponsive many times with new build.

  • opticyclic

    The main thing that stops me switching from O12/Firefox is the fact that I use a lot of Java Web Start applications at work.
    With any non-webkit/blink based browser the jnlp is downloaded to a temporary directory and run from there.
    With the current Opera (and Chrome etc) it downloads to the Downloads directory and over time you end up with huge numbers of copies of the same file in that dir that you need to clean up.
    Can you fix this please. I’m starting to like the look of the new Opera now and the features that are starting to creep back in!

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    Workaround for the problems with Java and crashing with bookmarks:

    1.) Install only the 32 bit version of Java, not both, the 32 bit and the 64 bit at the same time! Then Opera will recognize the Java plugin. If you want to use Google Chrome 64 bit with Java, install the 64 bit version and later delete it again. That’s easy, isn’t it?

    2.) Install a theme! Then you can use the bookmarks panel (CTRL-Shift-B). The standard one, white snow on white background (what means NO theme), is not enough.

    After these two flickworks Opera is your friend and you do not nead a new profile.

    • https://github.com/rtws/ dqdb@rtws

      1.) I’ve installed only 32 bit version of JRE and it’s working in Opera (but I’ve installed 64-bit JDK also).
      2.) I was using the gray theme in my deleted (=crashing) profile and I left the default image in the new (=working) profile

      So I confirm both issues and nice catches!

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        No, 1.) does not work here. Windows installes the 32 bit version in C:Program Files (x86)Javajre1.8.0_25 and the 64 bit part of the JDK package in C:Program FilesJavajre1.8.0_25. After this Java is again not recognized in Opera.

    • A. R.

      Java is a virus :/

  • pureocean

    Represent the crashing when opening opera://bookmarks/

    1) Click to Themes from Opera menu ( opera://themes/ )
    2) Select to “gray” as defaul theme
    3) Click to Bookmarks from Opera menu ( opera://bookmarks/ ).
    4) Crashing…

    Temporarily solution: Need that lines deleting from “Prefences” file:

    “themes”: {
    “selected_id”: “bundled/grey”
    },

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Indeed, that’s also a solution! Thanks.

      • pureocean

        you’re welcome. 🙂

  • L33t4opera

    @Developers – 2 /bugs/ report:
    1. No matter if the “WebUI navigation bar” is enabled, or not, in both cases: when you select O-Menu > Themes, or if you click “Themes” link on the “WebUI navigation bar”, the page content is blank (except for the side menu) – it happens on Linux, and Windows as well. After you reload the page, the themes’ list is displayed again,

    2. If the “WebUI navigation bar” is enabled, go to the BM, and you can’t see the “+” sign on the left of the “new folder” button. When you click on “new folder”, and start to write something, you can’t see what you’re typing.

    • ahoj1234

      are you aware that you are reporting something what “leaked”, has not been introduced and is experimental, aren’t you? Not mentioning that this is dev chanel, not beta one.

      It’s the same case when like everyone was reporting that “tab menu list” (or whatever it’s called) is not functional even when it has not been introduced (beside the flag was added) at the moment.

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        We are here in this blog to report problems in the dev version, so they can be fixed for the beta version. And I have the same problem (in 1.) when I simply open “opera:themes”. It’s empty. I don’t see any theme. I have installed the “White Lion” now. Even reloading the page doesn’t show the theme. As far as I found out I have to download more than one theme, then I can see a list of themes.

        • ahoj1234

          well, my comment was more about the WebUI nav. bar. Reporting about theme’ problems is relevant here.

          But I just disagree with reporting something what has not been introduced even in dev. It’s more like a “leak” of very undone state of something.

          1) leak (comments about how can be done better)
          2) introduce to dev channel (reporting bugs)
          3) introduce to beta channel (fixing bugs)
          4) introduce to stable branch (bug free, developing some “extras” for the feature, starting from 1st point again)
          just my opinion and I just could not stand reports for something what’s “not here”.

          • A. R.

            U have wise words in this thread.

        • L33t4opera

          Hi Ralf, thanks for the reply, and confirmation of point 1 ;-)We are here in this blog to report problems in the dev version, so they can be fixed for the beta version.Well said, I could not agree more.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      About #1: If i click on “themes” in the navigation bar, the page lodas fine. If i click on OMenu > Themes then the page opens with only the side menu.
      If i click on “themes” in the navigation bar after have clicked in Omenu > Themes then the page appears “blank”.

      • L33t4opera

        Hi Leo, thanks for your reply, and confirmation.

  • pureocean

    Dear Thorben Bochenek and other Opera Developers:

    Firstly, thank you for deleting support with right-click on the sidebar items.

    Two request for Speed Dial:

    It’s possible all bookmarks seleting with mouse pointer on “Speed Dial -> Bookmarks bar”. So, context menu displaying if right-clicked when all selected. Unfortunately,

    a) “Delete” option is passive.
    b) “Add to Speed Dial” option can’t working.

  • https://github.com/rtws/ dqdb@rtws

    Although Opera extension documentation doesn’t mention it, you are supporting “chrome.tabs.highlight()” method and “Tab.highlighted” property, but this support is currently broken.

    JavaScript:
    * I can highlight a tab from an extension with calling “highlight()” method or setting “highlighted” property with “update” method, but I cannot clear highlighted state by clearing “highlighted” property with “update” method

    Keyboard navigation:
    * activating a tab by pressing “Ctrl+Tab” clears highlighted state, but with key “1” and “2” (advanced keyboards on, tab cycling on) doesn’t

    Mouse:
    * hovering clears highlighted state. IMHO this behavior isn’t proper and activation (=clicking) should clear only highlighted state

    • Vux777

      last day or two I was playing with tabs api and highlight method
      chrome works the same way (canary at least). I can’t clear highlight with tabs.update. I think it’s by design.

      • https://github.com/rtws/ dqdb@rtws

        Thanks for your feedback. Maybe this JavaScript behavior is by design (but I’m not sure after looking into Chromium sources e. g. chrome/browser/extensions/api/tabs/tabs_api.cc), but keyboard navigation is definitely not working properly for highlighted tabs.

        • Vux777

          if you trying to clear it (highlight state) from active tab, it’s not possible. Tabs.update practically won’t do anything.

  • rufu2

    Just a friendly ceterum censeo…
    Please add side panels and customizable default search engines. Thank you.

    • A. R.

      Believe me they might have banned the whole idea they are not just telling :/

      • Lacedaemon

        Oh they told (and everybody knows it as well), that it’s not possible with Chromium and will never be…

        • A. R.

          We should knew that Google the deal Opera made with Google is not Opera’s userbase friendly. I think eventually people will ditch Opera and that’s exactly what google intended.

        • Rafael Luik

          No they didn’t say that.

  • rufu2

    About the #webui-navigation-bar :
    This is a nice idea. I would put it on the left, and optionally just show Icons. It takes less “screen real estate”. And it could switch between panels in a future side-panel setup.

  • Ettore Lavarini

    Windows XP (32bit)
    Opera Developer (32bit)

    Minimize button isn’t working (at all).
    Minimize by taskbar works.

    • rufu2

      Confirmed this on win7 x64, Minimize button does not work.

      • Dave-H

        And here too 32 bit XP.
        The minimise button in fact appears completely “dead” in that it doesn’t even “glow” when hovered over like the maximise and close buttons.

      • A. R.

        OMG so shocking, but nothing new – when it comes to team Opera.

        • Rafael Luik

          Minimize is useless anyway, just switch to the other app you want. In Windows there’s even a button to go to desktop if you really want it…

          • Cidel Fastro

            Useless for you maybe but obviously others want it. Many programs release memory when minimized. Besides, if Opera are going to have it there, it should work properly

      • Lacedaemon

        Strange, same OS here but no problems. But still as long as it happens to you there must be something wrong.

  • Druszlak

    Interesting…
    http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/2/7145933/google-bookmark-manager-available-to-download

    It’s basically the same as Opera bookmarks manager. You guys are working together or what? Maybe it was a deal – Print View from Chrome for Bookmark Manager? 😉

    • A. R.

      What is this?? HUH PLEASE EXPLAIN.

      It appears that Opera is tied up tight on google restrictions? Is this this true? That Opera became a moo for Google?

      How horrible. Knowing all what Google does with NSA.

      • Rafael Luik

        I can only read that as sarcasm.
        I’ll pass writing anything else ok…

        • A. R.

          yeah I write tongue in cheek a bit yes, but it must be true that Google didn’t hop on board with Opera to make Opera the worlds most popular browser, no they have Chrome for that and they only popped Opera just to eat it alive.

          • Rafael Luik

            Google didn’t hop on board with Opera, Opera Software is simply getting the open source code from the Chromium project page. The end.

          • Lacedaemon

            Wrong, they contribute to the code of Chromium and Blink as well.

          • A. R.

            They have other business too, like Google pays for searches, Discover and yes they do other business as well, the copied bookmarks manager is one clear proof.

  • A. R.

    Opera is flip flopping with features, especially tab usage. Currently by default the super wonderous tab preview has been disabled but no new tab handling mechanism yet introduced – despite all the work down the drain.

    Will O27 include this super invention:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hqSGGk1YTI

    We are used to and accustomed to stack our tabs, please, bro.

  • http://flesheatingbug.deviantart.com/ Som

    not too fond of the new darkened folder thumbnails in the speed dial, would be nice to be able to pick our own thumbnails too….

    …..

    also I’m still missing the wand

    • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

      “the wand”?!

      • A. R.

        Why not explain it?

        • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

          Go ahead!

      • ahoj1234

        you know what he meant… THE wand known as password manager, lately just “a key”. Nowadays password managing is just a bit… well, can’t say the word.

        anyway, it’s faster to use “ctrl+enter” or “the wand” (icon) as in old but gold presto Opera than search the whole page where the * log in place is and then moving mouse cursor here and confirm it… But chromium Opera doesn’t have something similar to “the wand” AFAIK.

        • http://flesheatingbug.deviantart.com/ Som

          Couldn’t have said it better myself, “the wand” was and still is one of the best features of any browser and it’s disappointing to see it hasn’t returned to opera yet. No other passwords manager comes close as far as I’m concerned

          • Dave-H

            Hear, hear!

          • Lacedaemon

            Ctrl+Enter and the Wand were great I really miss them 🙁
            T_T

      • A. R.

        Yes the wand, I dunno what are the main issues with it, and at first i was shocked to not have the key-button anymore, but it seems the new opera handles passwords quite well, but there is improvement – the usernames and passs aren’t always there, I’d still want a key-button to be able to push the wandkey content on those occasions Opera forgots to bring about user’n’pass’n’word

        • PaulW

          Yes I found this today. It can take something like over 30 seconds for the passwords to populate where as with O12 and the Wand icon it was straight away..

          • A. R.

            Yep.

  • taneli

    So, youtube now has a 60 FPS option… apparently only on HTML5, now make the HTML5 videos work on youtube and everyone will be happy 🙂

    1) HTML5 videos on youtube will stop buffering completely, if you pause the video (other browsers will restart buffering after pause (this is, if you have it on pause for 5+ minutes or so, Opera just won’t restart the buffering.))
    2) Get that 60 FPS in here too.

    Flash has so many problems that i’d like to see this HTML5 video thing going forward.
    The problem is, if you pause a video, that is in HTML5, for a bit, it will never start reloading the video, need to refresh the page and seek back to where you were.
    This is cumbersome when you watch some 1-2 hour conference videos daily and need to pause them a lot to do work or other stuff.

    • zmwangx

      Currently, a lot of 4K videos top out at 720p in the HTML5 player, which stinks.

  • Leaudevie

    I always wondered why you never added an intrinsic ability to save flash files and other objects in the exact same way as you save an image. Right click save. I know its easy on some sites (4chan literally has a link to the flash file itself) and there are tools out there (most of which only work on youtube and all of which don’t work on all sites) and you can do it anyway (looking through cache etc). However I really think that this has been an overlooked feature and it really annoys me that no browser has ever done this as standard. It should not be more difficult to save a flash file than it is to save an image. Honestly it shouldn’t. Its all cached anyway so there’s no reason to download twice. Surely all that is required is the cached file must be copied?

  • Welcome, Stranger

    is there a way to converter speed dial folders in bookmarks folders?

  • bwat47

    The new bookmark manager BADLY needs the ability to select multiple items with ctrl + click, shift + click, and ctrl + a. Having to manually click the check for each item when organizing bookmarks is a massive pain and ruins an otherwise nice bookmarks manager,

    • A. R.

      Yes you are right, good feedback.

    • Lacedaemon

      Welcome to August 2014, the state of the bookmarks of then…

    • Dave-H

      You can still “lasso” them as you do when selecting files in Windows Explorer.
      Just click top left of the first one you want to select, hold the button and drag the selection.

  • Gojic Milos

    While watching stream on Twitch (“source” quality – that’s usually 720/1080@60fps), using ppapi or npapi flash, Opera uses cpu 1.5-4 times more than IE11 (with ax flash, ofc). Also, minimize button is unclickable when using basic/classic windows theme, and pure Opera cold-start performance is just, well, abysmal. 🙁

    • Lacedaemon

      Yes, watching 2 twitch windows at a time brings the browser down to his knees, (video & audio stuttering, if you do something else that consumes little CPU the effect is even worse, while Presto Opera eats them for breakfast. The Chromium engine is just shit man. It’s just for looking and doing 1 thing and nothing else. Not to tell about the HUGE amounts of memory it requires…

  • ABDX

    Please fix the MINIMIZE button problem on WINDOWS XP, it doesn’t work !!!

    • Dave-H

      Already reported.

      • Shion

        I’ve kept sending reports on minor but very annoying bugs since maybe 20th version, but none was ever mentioned in changelog. Or should they be sent to some other place to be noticed? I used Opera bug report.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          They were fixed ?

          • Shion

            Download popups keyboard block – poorly, and ignored after. Better files download – looks like they did, but it was a “popular” bug, so no surprise there. Others bugs are yet to be fixed. It’s not like I track their status, just happen to stumble on old annoying bugs over and over again, thinking “Hey, I already reported this **** like 2 months ago”.

            Does Opera have an open bug tracker where all the stuff from “Opera bug report wizard” would appear?

          • Leonardo Gomes

            They were real bugs? Or just suggestions?

          • Shion

            Real bugs. Some minor but very annoying, some seemed major (the steamcommunity https/http mixed use brought very strange bugs that looked like a security issue).

            I mostly post suggestions here on blogs, but it seems they weren’t “polite” enough to be even read, not to say considered. Which doesn’t inspire my politeness for some reason.

          • Rafael Luik

            2 months is too little for some kinds of bugs… When they’re too difficult or deep in the code it’ll take more time to get solved, on the other hand when they’re too trivial they’re set to be fixed later than more important bugs in the priority list. Hehe…

            DirectDraw/Cleartype looks like something dependent on Chromium (and it was a flag turned off by default since few time ago). They’ll contribute upstream, but not always – if they fix all Chromium bugs no time would be left to fix their own and add new features. 🙂

          • Leonardo Gomes

            And you’ve checked only by the bug number or by its description also? Some bugs may be duplicates of others, so only one of them will be shown in the list, i presume.

    • L33t4opera

      Hi, FYI: “logged internally as DNA-29241 (if you want to look out for it in a future changelog). We’ll start looking into it.” – the source link.

  • Vit K

    What about tabs saved for offline on mobile device? Is it possible to save page for offline reading in desktop version? Or they are just not synched?

  • Wando Schneider

    Hi Thorben. I have not posted exclusively, just replied other comments. But I want to tell explicitly: I enabled the flag “WebUI navigation bar”, and i loved it! Congrats!

  • MarkusMK

    Problems with Bookmarks and Themes:
    – Opening Bookmarks with theme ‘gray’ will crash Opera and restart. With other Themes it works great.
    – Changing Themes with opened Bookmarks will crash Opera, too.

  • Lazare Inepologlou

    Syncing extensions would be nice a feature to have.

    As I work in 4 or 5 different machines it is a real pain to install or configure extensions to all of them.

    • L33t4opera

      Hi, “we are going to synch history/settings/theme/extensions/ we are not sure about passwords.” – the source link.

      • https://github.com/rtws/ dqdb@rtws

        And Opera already supports the chrome.storage.sync API (but this support is not documented 🙂 ) since version 17 or earlier. Of course current implementation stores data only locally in Sync Extension Settings folder, but this is the first step to synchronize not only extensions but extension settings also.

        Extensions can save data in multiple locations: localStorage (not synced), sessionStorage (not synced and cleared after browser exit), chrome.storage.local (not synced), and chrome.storage.sync (currently not synced, but I’m sure that it will be synced). So if an extension uses the right API, its settings will be synced between computers when this feature gets ready.

  • Wraith

    Someone reported (for v26) a slow frame rate on some videos when they are played in Full screen and I can confirm this issue, this happens only with incrusted videos..
    You can reproduce the problem by:
    -Go to :http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/10/video_try_not_to_overheat_as_you_watch_excitebike_arena_footage_from_mario_kart_8s_dlc
    -Play the first incrusted video and go to full screen, the video will start to show a slow frame rate, if you come back to normal size the frame rate come back to normal speed.

    This does not happens directly on youtube, this issue happen only on web site with incrusted videos.

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Not here (with your example). Which flash player do you use? Here Pepper Flash under W7x64.

      • Wraith

        I installed pepper flash after reading your answer and the problem is gone, thanks.

      • Zik

        How do you install Pepper Flash on Windows? Can I do it without installing Chrome?

    • Lacedaemon

      Doesn’t happen to me either with your example, however, this happens with every twitch.tv video at source quality @60 fps where going full-screen drops the fps to about 28-38, while playing it in Chrome the fps stay at 55-58. Using Flash 15.0.0.215.

  • Ilias Langas

    Hey guys, i am not sure if this is the correct place to put this but i have the following problem with search engines:
    When i try to use a search engine by pressing the relevant hotkey in the address bar(e.g. ‘b opera’ which searches bing for opera) i only get the search i was looking for when i use the default search letters (g, y, b, z, w). When i use custom letters that i manually assigned, for example ‘d’ for a duckduckgo search or ‘a’ for an amazon search, i get redirected to the start page of the search engine and not in the results page(e.g. ‘d opera’ takes me to duckduckgo.com).
    Is there a workaround or am i missing something ?

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      You say “pressing” the hotkey – how do you do that? Do you press the key and hold it and write at the same time or what? Or do you write the letter behind that, then “space” and your search term? How did you create the search string for your custom search engine? Can you please let us know your search string for example for DuckDuckGo? Here every search engine works fine, including DuckDuckGo, Amazon, Wikipedia, Qwant, unbubble.eu and so on.

      • Ilias Langas

        My problem was that i hadn’t realized the correct use of form submitting. You were right to point out the search string for the search engine. What i was doing was putting the site’s homepage url(e.g. http://duckduckgo.com) instead of the submitted query url(e.g. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=%s). I corrected it now thnx a lot for your time.

        • Ralf Brinkmann

          The way to create the correct search term is very easy: Go to your wanted search page (for example duckduckgo.com), put the cursor into the search field, press the right mouse button and let Opera create the search machine entry for you.

  • senna_4ever

    Good changes. just a little request: when I add a urlf, I could choose the subfolders where save it too, because you can choose only main folders to bookmark.

    • ahoj1234

      good for you. I was about to write that I could not even figure out how to make a subfolder. I tried it for 2nd and with a success.

      It took me like 2 minutes to figure out how to make a subfolder… not asking how average users doing it… maybe by switching browsers (sorry for the irony)

      and I found only one and difficult way that is not to intuitive (opened “my folders” and dragged folder on folder)

      @thorbenb:disqus topic: making subfolders
      – why this can’t be done by dragging folder to opened folder???
      – why it’s not possible with RMB -> content menu with “add bookmark”, “add folder”…?
      – why it’s not in EXISTING content menu (where rename and delete is) – speaking about main folders. RMB on main folders should offer “add subfolder”

      • Lacedaemon

        I told the same here giving also 3 propositions, amongst them the simple button on the top “Create New Folder”, (screenshot) don’t know if @thorbenb read it

        • ahoj1234

          yeah, it was too long to read it 😀 sorry… just read these 3 points and it seems like that we have a bit identical idea about how it should works.

          hope that he (and not only he) is more than considering these issues…

  • taneli

    Still completely unusable with high CPU usage, so, not for working people, nor for artists.
    I’m wondering who this browser is aimed at at the moment o.O

    O21 is still working though, on CPU usage, the browser as a whole doesn’t work at all.

    • escruting

      True that.

    • myoperaexile

      Bad for my eco-credentials too! Seriously, sometimes I switch to my mobile phone to browse (using Opera Mobile beta of course) just because I know Opera desktop CPU usage will be quite high whenever I even move the mouse and the laptop fan will come on frequently. (Okay, I’m the equivalent of a hypermiler when it comes to reigning in my household energy usage!)

      The “No CSS” extension helps somewhat for CSS intensive pages but otherwise I don’t know what the answer is. Maybe a “low power” option in the Opera menus so it stops processing unnecessary background stuff?

  • oic

    ever since you guys added bookmarks, the speed dial icon that usually appear on the right of of the URL disappeared. Its just the heart icon. When will we see the speed dial icon?

    • https://myspace.com/bluezzbastardzz Hans-Jürgen Bardenhagen

      When you look at the left side of the address bar… 😉

      • oic

        the left side icon is a short cut to speed dial. Its NOT The same as the old speed dial icon on the right, which add/removes speed dials

        • Leonardo Gomes

          You can right click on the page or use the heart button. With the last one, page will also be bookmarked.

        • https://myspace.com/bluezzbastardzz Hans-Jürgen Bardenhagen

          I see, so you did not find the option to add a page to the speed dial. When you click on the Heart icon, a thumbnail is generated for the bookmark, and in the upper right corner of this thumbnail when hovering it with the mouse there is a rather small icon in grey for adding the page to the speed dial as well. When you click on it, the icon color will turn to blue.

  • name siname

    Why need speed-dial??? if you can make the bookmarks bar as Startpage

    • Cidel Fastro

      Agreed, the visual bookmarks renders speed dial useless as they are basically the same thing. However, using the bookmarks manager as a start page is buggy and often loads to a blank tab for me

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Why need bookmarks? You can make the speed-dial as Startpage.

    • Wando Schneider

      It’s just a matter of what you prefer. I like speed dial, and I don’t use Bookmarks, for instance.

    • x a

      They are totally different: While I struggle keeping bookmarks somewhat organized (and effectively fail), my speed dial is as tidy as can be.

      So it would be irrational to use the root folder of bookmarks, which is somewhat fittingly called ”unsorted bookmarks“ to serve as a tidy and long-term-constant speeddial.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Opera won’t autocomplete from Bookmarks!
      But I can’t import from Firefox to Speed Dial!
      Firefox offers real sync now!!

  • jimmyhouj

    hello, offtopic but is opera planning new skins?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I don’t think so.

      • jimmyhouj

        why you dont think so? did opera told they dont want give us new real skins?

        • Leonardo Gomes

          I just think that they have other priorities now.

  • jimmyhouj

    the new opera is very nice!!!

  • NIBB

    Can someone tell me how do I open multiple bookmarks at once, or all bookmarks in a specific category folder?

    It seems in Opera stable you have to open them one by one, how annoying. One of the things of having bookmarks is to be able to open specific urls or websites all at once with one click. I also truly dislike that the bookmarks do not appear in the bookmark bar, its like a completely separate things which makes it very confusing and complicated.

    I honestly preferred the old Opera Presto side bar where I could have it displayed next to my browser and open one or as many as I wanted instead of having to open a new tab. What you did here, is the same thing people complained to Microsoft with Windows 8 Metro. This interrupts your work-flow and concentration. You should not go to a separate screen in order to open a bookmark. At least Google has a shortcut to display at the top which you can show/hide at will.

    And one more person that also misses tab stacking. Opera is the pioneer in tab management and browsing, there should be more options to it. It seems Opera is hugely limited in the features/GUI design since they switched to Blink. Using the render is fine, but do not be just another Chrome clone.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Currently not possible afaik.

    • Vux777

      not sure about bookmarks manager, but middle click on folder in bookmarks bar will open all bookmarks in it (if you are using BB)

      Some time ago, I had to open specific set of pages frequently, so I did simple ext for that… maybe you can find it useful

      • Dave-H

        You can also go to the Opera menu>Bookmarks>My Folders, right click on a folder and “open all”.

        • Vux777

          yea, I totally forgot about bookmarks under O menu…
          but it has little weird behavior
          it won’t allow you to “open all” on folders on first level in bookmarks bar
          plus, every click will cancel those fly-out menus, and then user must repeat procedure (click O, hover/click bookmarks, folder etc…)
          annoying

      • NIBB

        Middle click on folders does not work. In Chrome and other browsers you can right click on a folder and it will open all bookmarks inside that folder. It did not find how to open two or more bookmarks at the same time on Opera, even if you select them one by one first, not even sure for what that function is as you can’t open multiple bookmarks at once.

        • Vux777

          I’m using developer version and middle click on folders works fine (it will open bookmarks from that folder)

          also, right click on Bookmarks bar folder (and under O menu) gives option on right click to open all

          • NIBB

            Not in Stable. Middle click will just browses to that folder, not open the bookmarks (urls in the browser), each on one tab.

            Click right in the bookmark bar? Sure, but that option is not available in the bookmark manager, and you need to send them to the bookmark bar individually, so now you have duplicate bookmarks for everything. The bookmark bar by default is empty, it does not display saved data in the bookmark manager. Its like 2 separate bookmark functions in Opera.

            So I have to manually put them in the bookmark bar, which is awful since there is not even a shortcut to hide/show it automatically like Chrome does. You can only display it via the settings. I wonder who exactly at Opera comes up with this unusable things.

          • Lacedaemon

            Tried middle click in Stable and it works there too.

          • NIBB

            I don’t think you guys understand what I said. Middle click opens the folder, it does not open all bookmarks in the browser. Yes, middle click works, but it does the same as clicking on the folder. I want to open all bookmarks, each one on a new tab. If you have 30 bookmarks in a folder, and you need to constantly open all those websites, it does not make to have to click them one by one but click once and open all of them.

          • Lacedaemon

            No, you didn’t understand. Vux777 wrote “not sure about bookmarks manager, but middle click on folder in bookmarks bar will open all bookmarks in it (if you are using BB)”

            There is the Bookmark Manager and there is the Bookmark Bar and the Bookmarks from the O-menu. 3 different things. We said that in the Bookmarks Bar and the Bookmarks from O-menu middle-click works, both in stable and in dev, in the Bookmarks MANAGER however, middle click opens the folder.

  • Lacedaemon

    Clicked on News -> Russia…
    sigh…
    some things never change…

    • SQL

      Yeah the fix didn’t really fix it, just helped a bit. it only goes there sometimes now but still.

  • jimmyhouj

    an german magazin wrote the opera browser uses an hardware id, is this something dangerous? the new feature of sync is working well!!! opera is the best!!!

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Nope, it’s just something necessary to do the sync.

      • ahoj1234

        and probably HW blacklisting (because of HWA) too… but just guessing

        • x a

          I don’t think so. A ”hardware id“ typically does not at all give any information about your hardware. Instead, it’s just a hash, calculated from arbitrary parameters of your hardware, in order to assign that unique number to a certain machine. In this case, to relate eg sync’ed open tabs to the machines, where they are open.

          • Lacedaemon

            Didn’t Chrome had something like that in the installer that could identify you by your machine specs though?

          • jimmyhouj

            the magazin wrote that opera for mac is collecting information and unifys it with the hardware id so it is possible to follow the user, i just want to know if opera does this only on mac or pc too? isnt this really dangerous?

          • Lacedaemon

            Of course, it’s not the best. But Opera hasn’t still commented on the other privacy issue it has, sending all your browsing urls to their servers for malware check, nor did it give the user the option to disable it (you have to block sitecheck2.opera.com in your firewall or with another method in the PC – don’t know how it is with Macs-), so I wouldn’t expect an official answer from them…

          • jimmyhouj

            its test, maybe someone from opera could explain something about this.

          • jimmyhouj

            please opera give us an feedback, please.

          • Leonardo Gomes
          • jimmyhouj

            ive read it, thank you 🙂

          • Leonardo Gomes

            What kind of information?

          • x a

            Conspiracies, conspiracies…

            Typical ”Hardware-IDs“ don’t contain info about you hardware, but are per-machine-unique™ ”fingerprints“ (you can’t reconstruct a person’s face from a fingerprint, either).

            Ever heard about the term ”browser fingerprinting“? Browsing the web you almost cannot avoid, making yourself as a unique identity re-cognizable – the hardware-ID exchanged between your browsers and a sync server is the least severe problem (none at all in this regard). User-Agent: strings, enumerable plugins, language preferences (Accept-Language:), codec support, localStorage, and many more little-things™ can potentially lead to a certain – and undesired – degree of ”uniqueness“ on the web. You can do your part to disturb that system by cleaning storage and cookies, faking headers, … But you are never save™. 😉

          • jimmyhouj

            of course 😉

          • ahoj1234

            @disqus_WZtx4u7zWJ:disqus
            you are both wrong in that from HW ID one just can’t recognize what graphic card are you using.

            for example test it here: (driver zone, don’t fill the HW ID if you don’t trust them!)
            http://driverzone.com/node/181

          • x a

            That’s not the kind of hardware id we are talking about here. That’s a PCI-ID – in particular, the PCI-device ID of your graphics adapter (you probably have other PCI devices in your computer).

            The hardware ID used to identify a machine for sync or stats would be a hash (one-way-function!), perhaps calculated involving the PIC-ID of the graphics card, but more than that.

          • ahoj1234

            it’s also called “hardware ID” (exactly like that). Maybe and also probably I’m the one who is wrong here. But since I did not read the article about what kind of HW ID is sniffed I would not say that it’s only that HW ID which you are mentioning. but yeah, will wait till someone from Opera will tell us.

          • x a

            The hardware id you are refering to, the PCI id, is not unique, though. It is unique to a model/rev of a hardware device.

          • ahoj1234

            @jimmyhouj:disqus did not tell us what is sniffed. If it’s used for sync sniffing or not. That’s why I’m not sure why he could not speak about sniffing hardware ID (PCI id) for HWA needs. But sure, will not collide with you any more 😀 but this is just a fact and I had been learned not to think only about one possible way.

          • x a

            The fact, that you find a
            "device_id": "AFEB82AE-D603-4981-91EF-026F6CB9D391",
            as data in the "sync:" JSON object in the Preferences of your profile, lets you assume, the Machine-ID is not even hardware dependent, but just a generated (G)UID.

          • jimmyhouj

            what does this mean? what is an (g)uid?

          • x a
          • Leonardo Gomes
          • Leonardo Gomes

            As said, this is another kind of hardware Id.
            The one we talking about is a random unique number created by Opera to identity your machine while using some services. Opera Link uses it too.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Probably not, it’s just a ID for the sync server to know from where the info are coming.

    • BK

      Can you please point the article ?

      • jimmyhouj
        • BK

          Thanks. As by EULA, “No personal identifiable information is collected. Your installation of the Software contains a unique ID that can not be linked to you as an individual person.”.

          BTW, Opera scored second position in this rank, which we are happy to receive 🙂

          • Lacedaemon

            What about this in the article? “However, Maxthon and Opera version for Mac OS send a unique device identifier, which enables profiling for personalized advertising.”

  • ahoj1234

    a fatal issue/bug about downloading:
    (need confirmations on this)

    from 2 tries it happened 2 times with/since this update:
    1) try to download any .avi file

    2) open the .avi file (BEFORE IT FINISHED DOWNLOADING) in VLC player (probably no matter what type of player you use but I just reproduce it with this)
    3) when downloading end instead of ending with an error about rights or whatever it just make “the file (1).avi” and start downloading it again from the very start.

    expected is that downloading will end with an error and in regular period (every 1 hour for example) it will try to delete the “.opdownload” from name.

  • Charlie Sanchez

    Updating already the newest version of Opera should rather abort with message that user already have this version installed or give choice to overwrite it (in case user wants to ‘repair’ current installation). Currently installer creates another version folder witch is kinda awkward in my opinion.

  • Khairul Skmt

    i want ot report about the sync…
    win 7, opera latest dev…
    the folder is redundat in my browser when sync it. why the some folder will be redundant and not merge it?
    and also want to complant about the “new features” the rename and delete it. firstly rename, where on earth that text going invisible. when i highlight it is will be visible. why you using same color text with the background colours? misintepret in visual dept or missing feature?

  • YM

    Help

    I downloaded the flash player ppapi (to use with Opera Stable)

    When I click on the update (on flash player preferences in mac snow leopard intel core duo 2 ghz, 2 gb ram) it “says” an update has to be installed.

    If i click it, it takes me to the adobe site and prompts to install the npapi flash player plug in (which i do not want since i do not need it)

    what should i do? leave the ppapi without updating???

    thanks
    YM

    • icetom

      yes ppapi will be overwritten if you update. that also happened to me. dont update it.

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      Update manually.

      • YM

        that is what i did, Ralf.
        i clikec on da button called ” Check now” (on adobe prefs)

        the default browser took me to the adobe website to d-load the update (which in fact was NPAPI and not an update to PPAPI)

        oh well…

        • Ralf Brinkmann

          That’s what I mean. I don’t use this update funktion, because I know the result. I use it only to see, if there’s something new. Then I go manually to the relevant pages and look for the actual date and version. I think it has something to do with the fact, that PPAPI is still beta.

          • YM

            thanks Ralf + IceTom

            im going to delete Flash & re-install it

            by the way: which should i get:

            1) PPAPI beta 15

            2) PPAPI beta 15 content debugger

            i presume that i should d-load 1) correct? (i m definitely not a debugger LOL LOL 🙂

          • x a

            Yep, 1).

  • icetom

    since today, Opera warns me from using the live.com/hotmail.com login. The official Microsoft site. How could this happen? Seems AVG is also involved as they send their recommendation to Opera.

    • PaulW

      I see the same thing today as well. I’m using ESET Endpoint virus checker. Seems to happen when Opera is first opened. Doesn’t seem happen on subsequent access if the browser is not closed..

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        Both confirmed.

    • Wraith

      I received the same warning about hotmail too! , and last week when I was downloading the Opera installer I received another security warning from Avast antivirus telling me that the installer was some sort of virus,…. This is getting weird.
      http://i.imgur.com/rCLlTGV.png?1

    • icetom

      thanks for confirming guys, the warning seems to have been removed from Opera now.

      However, to prevent future cunfusion about those messages, id love to hear some word about it from Opera guys here. Maybe make those warning-messages more transparent or tell those AVG guys to open a site where you can see why exactly there is a warning about a specific site.

  • Jorton

    Please consider to put titles under the speeddial icons to clearly shown what they are. It is really confusing me when I’m using the new start page.

    • Bjarne Bertelsen

      I totally agree with that. This severely limits the useability of speeddial. It,s impossible to know what the icons stand for. And we’re all waiting for sync of speeddials and bookmarks (and passwords) across platforms (mac, windows, android, ios). And of import/export of bookmarks. In the meantime I use google bookmarks, since they are available from everywhere.

  • jimmyhouj

    how many extensions do you use? when im clicking info of extensions they say extensions can read your browser history, do take controll over every information i use on webpages. what do you guys think about extensions?

    • Vux777

      – currently, I counted 16
      – those warnings should be presented to end-users in some different way

      For instance, if you want extension to search for selected text on page, extension needs access to all data on all web pages you visit. Sounds spooky, but how else would extension know what you want to search for. Same for history, if there is some functionality related to history, extension need access to it. That’s how chromium extension system work.
      If developer wants to “extend” some of the browser functionality, he/she needs to declare permission in extension manifest (bookmarks, storage, all_urls, history, tabs, contextMenus… ).

      And those permissions are later presented to end-users…and I think it’s wrong.
      When user see those warning for the first time, it’s like “wtf…why would developer(?!?) read all my data?”
      and later, when they realize nothing bad happened, they gonna click everything not even reading those warnings, and thinking “usual BS info…. just like end users agreement for native OS applications, etc” (which is potentially dangerous)
      I think extensions on Opera store are checked manually (it takes couple of days, sometimes week, for their revision)

  • Wraith

    How do you remove a device from syncing tabs! ?

    I think the default behavior must be: If you sign off from your “opera account” then the tabs synced by that device must be removed from the list.

    I still see my synced tab from other PC that no longer I will use.

  • lyl yuan

    i hope next version To join more UI Custom,for example:history can Random Refresh icon placed next!

  • Alaknár

    What about Windows Phone?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      This is the Desktop Team blog. Maybe you can find something in the Mobile team blog or in the forums.

  • IllusionMH

    Great impovements in lasd few dev builds (O27 and O26)!

    * Sync don’t spam when internet is down. But I’d like completely green or red icon, instead of small status mark on icon.

    * Tabs sync is great, but as mentioned earlier we need way to remove remembered tabs from devices.

    * Finally I can debug JS from WebStrom in Opera.

    And I have question about Experimental JavaScript:
    Did somebody noticed problems with variables/functions arguments “static”?
    I can spot it on coub.com and Jenkins (Console Output).
    In console: Uncaught SyntaxError: Unexpected token static

    AFAIK it is disallowed only in strict mode, but now it shows error even in non-strict mode. Is it some bug in v8 or it will be restricted in non-strict mode in future(ES7)?

  • http://gwendragon.de/ GwenDragon

    What about a Linux version for Debian 7.7 Wheezy?
    Nobody cant test on current Debian Stable 🙁

  • Michal Šodek

    Can you release Fn+Ctrl+F2 for system? It’s the only way to view time on Yosemite fullscreen mode.

    • https://github.com/rtws/ dqdb@rtws

      … and currently reserved Ctrl+number to extensions? Or even better: implement these shortcuts?

      Ctrl+number shortcuts are assigned to GoToSpeedDial_x commands and they do nothing at all.

  • Pavel

    Can you do any version of opera 25 with new looking old bookmarks manager?

  • Laga Mahesa

    I’ve just spent 2 hours trying to get Opera to recognize Pepper Flash, and now I’ve figured it out after resorting to using procmon.

    Unlike NPAPI plugins, Opera does NOT accept PPAPI plugins if they are merely placed in the “plugins” folder (mine is currently “C:Program FilesNetworkWeb BrowsersOpera.Developer27.0.1670.0plugins”). PLEASE fix this Opera, as it is crucial for portable operation which I rely on at work.

    Instead, it uses the Macromedia registry key set by Adobe:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREWow6432NodeMacromediaFlashPlayerPepper

    Now, here’s the clincher: I’m on Windows 7 32 bit, and that key (Wow6432) is for 64 bit. Opera ONLY searches for the 64 bit key and ignores the normal, 32 bit, key:

    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINESOFTWAREMacromediaFlashPlayerPepper

    Recommendation: Don’t use the registry as default. Scan the normal plugins folder FIRST, or as is currently done for NPAPI plugins.

  • Lars

    Page breaks down when loading mightytext.net/web7/

    • ahoj1234

      http://www.marmozets.co.uk
      http://www.slipknot1.com/#/events

      these pages also crash while loading and I could find some more. Never happened with older builds AFAIK. (works pretty well in FF – don’t have chrome to test it there)

      Anyway, can’t confirm your page since it needs a lot of authorizations and download an android apk – I don’t wanna test it then.

    • Ralf Brinkmann

      When I try to open this page, I’m forwarded to a Google login page (https://accounts.google.com/ServiceLogin?…). The same with Google Chrome and Firefox.
      W7x64.

      • Lars

        to use mighty text you need to log on to your google account. This app used to function well with previous developer builds, but this on causes constant problems

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    The week is over and we have a new weekend toy: http://get.opera.com/ftp/pub/opera-developer/27.0.1676.0/
    Announcement and changelog will come later. 🙂

    • L33t4opera

      The change log is already there, since yesterday 😉
      “DNA-29382 API support for batch moves” :>

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        Oh really! Why didn’t you say that before? 🙂

        The problem with Java is still there, but I’m not sure if this is really a problem of Opera or of the new Java. Even in the Java Control Panel (Windows System Settings) it’s not possible to make two versions visible. If you install both, the 32- and the 64-bit, you will see only the 64-bit. And then Opera (32-bit system) doesn’t recognize Java.

        More in the other blog. See you there.

        • L33t4opera

          Why should I mention about the change log, if there was nothing new to test? 😉

  • Suleman Mughal

    I still cant sync in opera 27 beta…

  • seanchabooka

    i have synchronized my opera bookmarks in my mobile but i cant see them on my opera desktop

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  • al9741

    Can I sync my pc to my Win10 phone?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Nope.