Today Opera developer updates to 26 (and Chromium 39.0.2145.4) and includes new bookmark sharing functionality. As always, we also included many bug fixes and other improvements. More details can be found in the changelog.

Bookmarks sharing

In Opera 25, we introduced a new visually-orientated bookmark manager. For Opera 26, we wanted to take things a step further and make it easier for you to share your bookmark collections. A new “Share” button appears within folders, allowing you to quickly and easily share their contents.

This leads to many possibilities. In the past, you could have shared a birthday wish list from one website with a friend. Now your list can spread across multiple shopping sites. Trying to book airline tickets for a romantic week away? Create a list of options from across airlines and share them with your partner. Found some funny cat videos but they are all hosted on different websites? Add them all to a bookmark folder, hit the share link and pass them on.

Just like our internal bookmarks, our shared collections have nice visual previews. You can also import collections that others have shared, straight into Opera (just click on the “Add to Bookmarks” button). In addition you can also send these collections to people using other browsers, so you can share with your less-enlightened friends and colleagues! 😉 Though sadly they will not be able to import them with a single click. If they want to do that, tell them to use Opera.

So, get to sharing content with your friends and let us know what you think of this new feature in the comments below!

Known issues

  • The print dialog does not work
  • Scrolling performances issue inside internal pages
  • Mac crashes quite often (we have already narrowed down the issue and it should be fixed in the next developer build)

Changelog and download links

Full changelog

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  • Wando Schneider

    Hi. Small bug: the O Menu have a 1px space on the left. If i click on the space, the menu doesn’t open…

    • Marcin Mitek

      Thanks, it’s reported as DNA-26843

      • Wando Schneider

        Always glad to contribute.

  • L33t4opera

    Thanks for the info Ruarí, and congrats on the first Opera developer 26 😉

  • Mr. Operaniac

    What is tab menu all about? What sense does it make to just bring about another vertical tab bar? Why you can’t just bring back the small trash can that can list all the closed tabs within current session????

    And one more question, how is syncronization exactly going in development?

    • Sidney Guioy

      new flag: #sync-tabs => Enables opened tabs synchronization.
      also i got a small face button on the left of downloads looks like it lead to settings but my guess is it’s for sync account :-)

    • NIBB

      Agree, I miss the trash icon, it was way faster than having to find it now hidden in the menu. It seems Opera is following Google into hiding everything into one big menu…

      • oic

        Chrome extension, SimpleUndoClose operate similar to trash icon

    • Marko Koivuniemi

      I like this new feature – I have lot of tabs and sometimes it’s easier to use this new menu to find certain tab. As for trash can I have Closed tabs extension in use

      • http://classicalmusicmayhem.freeforums.org Rodders

        I agree it’s a good feature if you have a large number of tabs. I have no idea why people keep going on about the trash can, something I rarely used personally. The ‘Recently closed’ menu item is good enough.

      • Khairul Skmt

        as for trash we can request the dev teams to make another section on the tab menu list of recently closed tabs!

        • Cjcr

          Right clicking should open recently closed tabs as tab-menu. This should be great.

    • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

      Well, we got tons of requests from people wanting vertical tabs … This is a first step

      • CrashNBurn71

        That would be pretty awesome. I could put Opera back into regular usage.

      • Anonimo

        This is really a great news that you are considering of implementing vertical tabs :) Menu is far from best, it absolutely won’t satisfy vertical tabs users from O12, but it’s a great step forward :)

      • Anonimo

        There is a Firefox developer that “realized” how awesome vertical tabs can be, that made me laugh that he realized that so late. I have used Firefox for more than 5 years with vertigo, treestyletabs, and finally sidetabs extensions, till version 29 when most of vertical tabs extensions stopped working correctly. They are working on fixes, but meantime if Opera brings that option first and especially as a built in feature it would be fantastic! http://www.darrinhenein.com/prototyping-side-tabs/

        • CrashNBurn71

          Most of those extensions still work (don’t know about vertigo). Tree Style Tab has a version for Nightly even. Although enabling e10s still breaks LastPass, Request Policy, and probably other things too.

          Most Impacting Recent Extension Removals:

          1) Remove the nearly broken Tab-Renamizer-babar, and replace most of its functionality with a custom renameTitle.html file that I use for “New Tab” and a user-script to auto-rename/fix titles.
          2) Removed Tab Mix Plus, mostly just missing a couple context-menu items, and a click behaviour for tab selection (don’t select tab until release click).

          It’s pretty cool completely changing the TAB appearance (for all states) by simply editing using a custom UserCSS file.

      • ayespy

        It’s only a first step if it leads to tabs that show all the time and do NOT cover any page content, plus when you have “vertical” turned on, the “tab bar” should disappear, increasing vertical screen space.

      • Mr. Operaniac

        Yeah you’re right, but what makes sense to us or users hoping vertical tabs is a vertical tab bar with thumbnail support, not two tab bars at the same time……

  • Lacedaemon

    Please make this https://operablogdesktop.disqus.com/opera_developer_update_26_introduces_bookmarks_sharing/latest.rss work just like you did with this one https://operablogdesktop.disqus.com/opera_developer_25_gameium_update/latest.rss , so that linking from comments does work.

    Thanks in advance.

    P.S.
    For those that can’t understand what this is, if you click on the above link that works, hovering over the comments shows the correct numbering of the comment and you will be linked to that specific comment and not the wrong one.

  • IllusionMH

    Heart menu is still useless
    1) Unable to remove page from bookmarks
    2) Unable to save page to nested folder
    3) Unable to create nested folder.

    Also I hope that creating of nested folders will be more fluent than adding top level folder and then dragging level by level, because left panel allows only reorder folders and do not have nested folders :(

    • http://www.absoluteteamspeak.net/ KingHawk

      That doesn’t make it useless but there sure is room for improvement.

      • IllusionMH

        If i can’t save page to desired folder or add it only to speed dial – it is almost useless.

        • András Ács

          I just found out that Ctrl+B adds page to speed dial. Also it is possible from page’s context menu.

          • IllusionMH

            Yes, but not from heart menu as before.

          • András Ács

            I missed it too at first, but thought about it more and seems that it is more logical to have bookmarks in the front seat, as they change more frequently. Now that bookmarks returned it is inevitable that they get the one-click treatment. What’s missing (and I’m sure the current state is a stop-gap) is a way to remove a bookmark, and that clicking on speed dial shouldn’t add as bkm (I’m trying to think if it could be useful but can’t see it?). To keep the action one-click (or two for dial), the ‘commit’ could happen when the popout is dismissed, and also clicking on speed dial button would dismiss the popout.

            To be fair, there is value in current way too, being able to just toggle speed dial presence, and having access to it later regardless of it is in the dial or not.
            And there are helpers, for advanced users, like Ctrl+B.

            This isn’t a simple problem, I wonder if having speed dial as specially treated bookmark folder would ease some of this dissonance?

          • Herr Pietrus

            No, because then we won’t have on-click way for adding pages to “stash” (unsorted bookmarks). There should be simply two separate buttons, one for SD and one for bookmarks (default folder for them shuold be of course unsorted bookmarks, as it is now) Removing pages from bookmarks via heart is also necessary.

          • FoolOfATook

            I don’t think so actually. I don’t see how @zodcode:disqus’s method would conflict with being able to add to the impromptu “Stash”; I agree with you on having 2 separate buttons for Speeddial and Bookmarks, the Speeddial button on the Heart menu popup is redundant I think; and removing pages from Bookmarks via Heart menu, I see no reason why not to have that. In fact, would probably be worse to not have that.

          • ForsakenFx

            They shouldn’t use CTRL+B as that is the combination used by most editors for adding bold text.

            They should either use a different combination (shift+ctrl+b), or exclude the usage when in a text form.

    • Lacedaemon

      Keep dreaming 😀

  • taneli

    Speed Dial is opening noticeably slower than before.
    Still problems with PPAPI and NPAPI (PPAPI doesn’t remember the sound level in YT, as NPAPI does, using NPAPI makes getting Opera window in front of other windows impossible.)
    Again the update brought back the crappy default search engines and removed some of my own.

    • https://twitter.com/Yarziel Raúl Garofano

      Speed Dial is opening noticeably slower than before.

      Confirmed Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS (x86_64; Unity)

    • https://twitter.com/Yarziel Raúl Garofano

      It also gets very slow to navigate settings, themes and extensions.

      Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS (x86_64; Unity)

      • taneli

        Yeah, forgot to mention that, the internal pages do get very sluggish.

        Win 8.1 x64 here though.

        • Guest

          Same here. Win7x64

    • FoolOfATook

      I said earlier in the comments that I saw no reason why people were hating on Disqus. I take that back. Disqus, you suck.

      Anyways, I had meant to reply to someone else’s comment, but they’ve all disappeared and I’m not dealing with Disqus’s crap so I’m just gunna reply to yours.

      Issue also confirmed on Win7x64

  • Dave-H

    STILL all being displayed too large, with no simple way of correcting it!
    :-(

    • Zik

      Maybe –alt-high-dpi-setting=96 ?

      • Dave-H

        I already use that switch, which does workaround the problem, but it’s not a permanent solution as far as I’m concerned.
        It works if you run Opera directly from a shortcut, but if you want to run it from anything else, such as an e-mail client, to have to keep editing Opera’s registry entries to re-add the switch when it’s overwritten by an update is certainly not an answer for the majority of potential users!

        • Guest

          Personally I think that UI looks as it should, it strictly reflects selected OS dpi. In the same way behaves IE and Office for example. But I’ve noticed a few problems with websites not displayed correctly and for me the most annoying are too big coast tiles and search bar as well as the same zoom level saved for SD and Discover. Fortunately Bookmarks are on different internal page and I can set different zoom level for them (miniature are also too big and still nothing has changed)

          • Dave-H

            Well my IE and Office still look fine, it’s only Opera developer that is displaying wrongly (for me.) Mind you I am still using IE8 and Office XP on Windows XP!
            All it needs is the flag back to disable this feature, which was there until they removed it, quite a few versions ago now.
            Surely it can be returned, I don’t care how deeply it’s buried. What would be the problem in returning it? Looking at the posts on the Opera forum, I’m certainly not the only one with this problem!

  • Sidney Guioy

    Scrolling performances issue inside internal pages :-/
    Also hope sync will be fixed ! :-)

    • Marcin Mitek

      Hmmm yeah, I think this also should go to known issues, we are aware of that. At least on Windows.

      • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

        added now

        • Wando Schneider

          I tested the extension. Really awesome. I think that the tab menu need to go on that way. It will be a rich and powerful tool :)

      • Sidney Guioy

        Who, you guys are reactive ! :-)

        Also, the new vertical bar is cool but it’s not really usable quickly, I suggest you to look at this extension :
        https://addons.opera.com/en/extensions/details/the-switcher/
        it’s really intuitive, and the ability to do everything from the keyboard is really cool ( ctrl+m + type + enter ) it manage closed tab too, so it may satisfied guys who absolutely want the trash can back too 😉

        • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

          we are aware of it. Look in the reviews and look closely at the screen shot. 😉

          • Sidney Guioy

            I’ve seen the screen shot but him liking you doesn’t mean you knowing him :p ( and i didn’t read the reviews back then :p ) Good to know that you like it, it can become a powerful tool if well integrated !

        • Marcin Mitek

          I use it actually 😉

        • FoolOfATook

          Lol, this is kinda funny.

          I like the search on that extension, but I’m not sure it’s necessary to have page URL as well. Cluttered I think if it did.

      • L33t4opera

        Hi Marcin, @sidneyguioy:disqus: It seems that I found out the culprit of the issue, when you switch off the “Show tab previews” under the “User interface” in Settings (Alt+P), and reload the page, the lag is gone 😉

        • Sidney Guioy

          nice try but it still lag ^^
          on a refreshed page no lag,
          but go to an other tab and come back to setting, lag is here again !

          • L33t4opera

            Hi Sidney, what if you turn off the “opera://flags/#tab-preview” flag, and restart the Opera?

          • Sidney Guioy

            it was default ( enable i guess ) and you are right, disabling it fixed it the scrolling ! :-)

  • taneli

    Still, when clicking the Youtube-icon in an embedded video, opens the videos YT page, but doesn’t read the cookies (not logged in untill page is refreshed), and yes, seems like an Opera problem in the last few versions, doesn’t do this in O21.

  • Dave

    Does this means that the Synchronization will also work between devices?

    I’m really looking forward to have the sync of my bookmarks working 😀

  • myxelloss

    Please, don’t forget authentication with user certificates (DNA-7353). I think it’s time to have this feature working.

  • Niyawa

    Every time I open Opera I get a ‘sync’ issue message, so hopefully it’s fixed soon as that gets annoying easily.

    On another note, still waiting for that 64-bit build. I’m using a relatively old laptop and if my browser can get faster (even if just a little) with that change, I’d like to test it.

  • icetom

    “Found some funny cat videos but they are all hosted on different websites? Add them all to a bookmark folder, hit the share link and pass them on.”

    thats what we waited for. More spam.

    Its a typical “hey our customers might want to do that, sharing is so important nowadays” implementation. the same goes for sharing-options on adult-videosites. what the heck are developers thinking?

    I dont know why you dont want to add the wanted email-client, but add stuff like that. because you think its modern.

    • Cjcr

      Totally agree with you. Seems that Opera employees are disoriented or something. Opera’s employees has potential but I don’t know what they are doing.

      • Lacedaemon
    • András Ács

      Bookmark sharing does seem useful to me, there were times when I wished for this function (as opposed to frantic copy-paste). Basic bookmarking with an added twist is already there, and it’s only gonna get improved. I don’t think Opera deserves angry rants, but that’s just me.

      I welcome experimenting, look at Chrome, its UI has been pretty much unchanging & boring on the desktop side.

      There are many things that could be improved, of course (starting with the dreaded heart icon.. to get out from the diary of a teenage girl:)

      • András Ács

        (Opera Android uses a plus icon for adding to bm/dial, and a bookmark icon for bm’s. It does feel better.)

      • icetom

        its not exactly an angry rant, but my opinion. Just like you complain about the heart icon – which I dont seem to care about. The fact that my comment got 39 upvotes maybe shows that many people feel the same and the company could finally stop arguing what they think is good for us.

    • Lacedaemon

      They are targeting a different user group (see recipes, cats, albums) and they are more focused to the mobile market, that is all… At this point, O is more user friendly and less customizable even than Chrome!, which says a lot about the direction it was designed for in the first place and what is to be expected in the future…

    • Adoxographist

      I just decided to stop complaining. They already know and have a list of things people demanded. Just giving them until the end of this year before I just stop using opera. T_T

    • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

      I think it’s quite sad that you feel this way.

      Personally, I can’t really see anything wrong if a company decides to add a feature to a product because that would be modern. This sounds like bringing the product up to the state of the art and would be considered product maintenance. Unless you want a product to die, you have to do this. Look at cars or at the extreme of fashion.

      We can now dispute wether this was just purely done to be “modern” and does not actually give the product any benefit or makes it worse. Sharing is not a random feature. We experimented with the idea of sharing a page you browse for a long time. We talked with users, random people on the street and made surveys. People like to do that.

      I can very much relate to that: I often send links about some research I have done out to colleagues. Sharing will let me do that. The next time I am collecting a bunch of blog posts about JavaScript tricks and bookmark those, I can just press share and share the new link with colleagues. That sounds simpler and easier to me.

      • NIBB

        People share public things, not private things. Bookmarks are there for a reason, because people save logins and other sites they frequent visit as a user, not as user/s in plural. This means this are personal websites.

        How many people do you think want to share their bookmarks on public or with other people? Yea, that was my guess, maybe 1 out of 10,000 people, and they will share 1 bookmark alone maybe once a year. I don’t see how it would be so hard for that person to just copy and paste the link.

        Opera users appreciate new things, this is not exactly a bright idea, but rather the lack of them.

        The stash for example was not a bad idea. People usually tend to want to remember something just for some time, or just until you have time to read it again, or check it, stash worked very well in my case for those websites that I don’t want as bookmarks but I need to read later, once read, its gone, I don’t need it anymore ever. So stash was like a temporary place for those temporary things, and a share button there would had made more sense but Opera now seems to want to integrate everything into one thing even removing stash in future versions. Stash was like the read it later plugin some people use. Bookmarks are not that. They are things you will use over and over again. And I don’t think people will share over and over again the same thing so a button there makes no sense for a place you always use with a feature you will rarely use.

        • icetom

          you explained it very well, bookmarks are long-term links, the examples Opera states in their update-post are not for bookmarks.

          also, I would anyway just copy it in a txt file and bypass imho stupid social-media sharing features and send my friend the txt file or copy it in a chat.

          • NIBB

            Well, I know what I bookmark, example are some logins to websites which I don’t want to go to the home page and play hide and seek until I find the login link to my user account. For those things a bookmark is perfect.

            You can click it and go directly.

            One example is a bank login or any other type of service which has long urls which you don’t want to type over and over again.

            And before people think this is something only power users do, not really. I know people that know little to nothing about computers and they actually use bookmarks for those stuff as well, as nobody can remember a long complicated url. Not to mention 20 or 50 of them !!!

            Opera does not seem to understand what bookmarks are actually about. They are links you are going to re-use more than one time. Its not an archive of links or websites, we have Google for that and people tend to search things they don’t care to much.

            Stash works for that perfectly and it would keep your bookmarks free of trash, I don’t want to send every blog article I want to read later to my bookmarks, and neither food recipes or airplane ticket prices… We have stash for that. Then you can just delete from stash what you don’t want or need anymore.

            Some people use bookmarks for that, or did in the past for no better solution, today you have things like Read it Later which replaced that feature so you can keep bookmarks nice and clean, organized in folders. Opera has stash and now they want to remove it. One folders with blogs you usually comment (like this Opera blog), called Blogs, another Forums, etc. Logins, etc. That is what bookmarks are.

            Organized lists of links in categories. Opera seems to try to convert or improve bookmarks for users but they don’t even seem to know how users use them.

            They are going to put all into bookmarks, stash, sharing, etc. Bad idea. Just keep things separated, if they mix things and confuse users, nobody is going to use that feature, or they are going to use it wrong, like sending temporary things as bookmarks and having to many things so they can’t find anything anymore.

          • FoolOfATook

            How about try some coherency first. There are so many points I could refute here, but I’m not going to bother as it’s not worth the time and effort. I’ll just tell you what you were told by Nekomajin:

            “You don’t know what a browser needs. You know what you need. If you are not happy with the current direction, it’s your right to comment, but please don’t speak in place for the others.”

            You’re ranting on at the devs about what YOU want. Saying it’s a shitty feature just because YOU don’t like it, just because YOU can’t find a use for it or don’t know how to use it. I’ll repeat it again, don’t speak for the rest of us.

            There is one thing that I find agreeable in your posts however, and that is customizability. It’s easier said than done, but in the ideal, theoretical “perfect” program, one could customize the program, chiefly the interface, infinitely within bounds, as he/she desires. Practically, there are limits, but I feel that customizability and flexibility are the greatest tenets of a program, once the base functions are satisfied of course. For those are the means to how you satisfy every user. Why have to try to balance an interface between different groups of users to satisfy them, when you could let them decide for themselves?

            So, yes, I do agree that they should make it an option to hide/disable the bookmarks sharing button/feature should the user choose so. Along with many others.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            So, yes, I do agree that they should make it an option to hide/disable the bookmarks sharing button/feature should the user choose so.

            Maybe by disabling opera://flags/#bookmarks-sharing?

          • FoolOfATook

            +1 for reminding me of that.
            Also woah, how did you quote? :O

            And, whilst such a flag exists right now, there’s no guarantee that it’ll exist in the future. Opera themselves have said that flags are not explicitly meant for customization, and rather for testing new features out. Although I don’t see why it shouldn’t be used for customization, as it’s certainly much better than the customization that we otherwise have: none.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            how did you quote?

            Use “

            text to quote

            ” (remove the space after < and /).

            And, whilst such a flag exists right now, there’s no guarantee that it’ll exist in the future.

            That’s true. In this case the flag will probably be turned into an settings option.

          • FoolOfATook

            Ty for that. Lame honestly how disqus doesn’t have that text code in an info box or something, or anything really; no acknowledgement of its existence has been made :/

            And I certainly hope that it’ll be turned into a setting. Not bamking on it though.

          • FoolOfATook

            Oh, I just realized, it’s just HTML >.>

            Thanks for that by the way, really appreciate it!

          • NIBB

            I apologize. I was not trying to say I know what most people need or want. That is not what I desire from Opera either. But what about people like yourself that maybe love this new feature? Then 8 months down the road Opera removes it again because they realized not enough people use it. Will you be happy? No.

            What I was trying to say is that Opera should put things that most will use, otherwise you are going to start using something just to see it removed later on. The new Opera/Blink is one year old, and now stash and other things are gone. If Opera is going to launch new things just to take them away a year later, then I don’t think to many people will stay on the software. Its shows instability, putting new things on one version, removing it the next.

            I have zero problems with this feature as long as its an option. The trick is letting users customize the browser to work the way they want. Sadly I don’t think Opera is doing that. They rather decide what works or not for all users, similar to Chrome and while Chrome is fast, secure and overall great, the reason some people still use Firefox is because Google decides what works or not on Chrome without giving users an option, trying to force technology on people rather than giving them a choice is not nice.

            I would love to see Opera again as the browser users can fit and customize how they like. Opera Presto was just amazing regarding tab management. Not a single browser was so advanced in terms of tabs features. The GUI was also great. The only problem was Presto, it had problems in some websites. Opera does not has this problem anymore. Chromium/Blink just works, so I don’t see why they can’t work more on the GUI and make it powerful again.

          • rufu2

            I think most of us will agree with you on customization, and tabs / gui.

            > What I was trying to say is that Opera should put things that most will use,

            Well, I kind of think they are trying to find these things… and its a bit of hit and miss. It was very weird that Opera thought nobody would need bookmarks anymore. But on old Opera, there were a zillion little things that made the browser special, and each of the little things had its (small?) group of devoted users. I hope they can bring back at least half of these cool things Opera Presto had, and maybe most of them in the long run.

          • FoolOfATook

            Ah, I understand. It’s all just a misunderstanding then. :)

            Basically, I agree with you (and all the others) who are saying that Opera needs to work on its basic functionality first, before introducing these flashy gimmicks (Not a jab at you Opera devs; some of these gimmicks are actually quite useful). Although I should point out that your original post was about how useless bookmarks sharing as a feature is, and only later did you expand onto your present point.

            Although, concerning something that has been talked about in this blog before, just because they are working on these new features does not mean that they aren’t working on sync as well. I think the dismay then, is at the perceived priority of sync, such that it seems that you aren’t taking it as seriously as you should be, and not devoting as much resources to it as you should be, or could be.

            Also, @NIBB:disqus: Curious, as I am not actually all that up to date with Opera stuff, what else, besides Stash, did they remove?

            And concerning Stash, I would actually like to see it keeped in some aspect as well. I note that Stash and Bookmarks (seemingly at least) share lots of similarities; likely built on the same framework I think. I’ve been thinking: Maybe just have an extra, special “Stash” folder in Bookmarks? Where it would be like pinned at the top or something, and also accessible from Startpage and menu.

        • Wraith

          Stash was a good thing to me too, but now is gone! :(

          • Nekomajin43

            You can do exactly the same with bookmarks. It’s just a tool. You decide how you use it.

          • Wraith

            Maybe but I Liked Stash because was very easy to use, you pushed the button and done, is saved for later read, with the bookmark Manager I have to click twice or more to save things.
            Stash was like “Pocket” (read it later “extension”), in fact I started to use stash instead of pocket but now I´m back. :(

          • Nekomajin43

            You can save pages to unsorted bookmarks with one click. You can open the bookmarks manager with two clicks. You can open a page from the unsorted bookmarks with one click. You can delete the page with one click. OK, you have to do this in the bookmarks manager. So what is the problem?
            The bookmarks manager lacks many features, but I can’t see why you can’t use it instead of the stash.

          • L33t4opera

            Hi, in case, that you can live without the BM, you can switch it off, and by that restore the old Heart menu, and Stash as well – please have a look here.

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            We envisioned out bookmark manager to be a Stash 2.0. With the graphics you can choose and “Unsorted Bookmarks” you get 80% of what made Stash useful. Context search is coming back eventually

          • Lacedaemon

            Please replace “eventually” with “soon”, as this was the one and only most interesting and useful feature of Stash :)

        • Nekomajin43

          How do you know whether my bookmarks are public or private? I am a teacher. If I want to share a collection of links of science articles I have collected during a week or so with my class, I can do it easily with this feature.
          I don’t know what’s wrong with you people. I don’t sync my data. Should I start complaining about how useless that feature is?

          • NIBB

            Then you are not using the correct tool. There are plenty of services that will allow you to do that with your students. Read here:

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_bookmarking

            A sharing button next to a bookmark is clutter. Its bad GUI design since its something rarely used, and by rarely users, its more annoying than useful to look at something you don’t use.

            Sync? No, that is a complete different story. All browsers have sync, none have bookmarks sharing, that should give you a clear message of why.

            Users have multi devices today. They have their Windows laptop, their Android phone, Linux, tablets, etc.

            Sync allows people to have the same bookmarks in their Opera Android phone as they have in the desktop. That is a very helpful feature and you know that? That does not work.

            My point? Opera has allot of work to actually first bring things that are useful before starting to spend time in useless gimmicks. They still have allot to do, bookmarks are not even available in stable releases, so how about they launch it first before adding new features to it?

            The current bookmark bar is an insult. Not even a keyboard shortcut exists to display or hide it. You need to go to the menu, then settings, and enable it and then re-do the process once you are done to hide it again. Terrible.

            Now stash is gone. It seems Opera releases something, a couple of months later kills it. I just remember when they said nobody wanted bookmarks in the first place and now its all they are talking about. As someone that uses Opera and other browsers as well for 16 hours a day I know exactly what a browser needs and what it does not need, I could take one thing of each browser to create the perfect browser.

            Its all about user control. If they allow users to disable/disable things, and customize the browser, perfect, I don’t mind, but it seems this is not the case with the new Opera. Things are there or not. No option around. So at least they should think things before taking decisions this lightly.

            Removing something users where using, and then introducing childish things is not something a professional software company would do. Hell, I would even pay for the browser if it was good. I did it in the past and I would happily pay to use Opera if there was a professional edition that allows customization. Not a bad idea actually for power users :)

          • Nekomajin43

            No, I use the correct tool. It’s called a bookmark manager. I don’t want to store my bookmarks on several different places.

            I am not fully satisfied with the current developement direction, but this is a certain feature I’m happy about. They started to implement it about the same time they started to work on sync. Sharing is a simpler feature, so they have finished it sooner. It is this simple.

            Bookmarks completely replace the stash. You can do everything with a specified folder what you were able to do with the stash.

            You can’t share a folder by accident, because you have to click twice on different buttons. I don’t know why the share button bothers you.

            You don’t know what a browser needs. You now what you need. If you are not happy with the current direction, it’s your right to comment, but please don’t speak in place for the others.

          • Lacedaemon

            “You can do everything with a specified folder what you were able to do with the stash.”

            Addition: With the content based search that is according to some devs in the works.

          • Nekomajin43

            Good point.

          • rufu2

            Looking forward to that!

        • Leif Roar Moldskred

          /Some/ of my bookmark collection is private, but other parts of it would make sense to share with colleagues or friends — my folder of relevant and useful pages on the Intranet, for instance, or the list of test servers for various systems, or the list of interesting articles from Dr. Dobbs and ACM.

          Like with any functionality for sharing data, I have some reservations about the particulars of how well security and privacy will be protected /in practice/, but I quite like the central functionality. It’s genuinely useful.

          • NIBB

            As long as they allow this to be turned off or make a confirmation dialog before sharing. There is nothing worse than clicking a share button by mistake and sharing something you where not supposed to share.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            I don’t see how someone could click on the share button by mistake.
            Anyway, you need to click on the share button and then on another share button to confirm so i guess it would be kinda difficult to share something by mistake.
            But even if you manage to do it, there won’t be a problem unless you copy the share link and send it to someone.

          • rufu2

            Yeah, it would be hard to accidentally share a folder or some links.

            > But even if you manage to do it, there won’t be a problem unless you copy the share link and send it to someone.

            Sharing bookmarks is a nice addition, but I do understand the concern that not everything should go over some distant server, even if I trust Opera more than other companies. This is why an html im/export is needed in addition: it can be done locally, without “the cloud”.

      • icetom

        “Personally, I can’t really see anything wrong if a company decides to add a feature to a product because that would be modern. This sounds like bringing the product up to the state of the art and would be considered product maintenance. Unless you want a product to die, you have to do this. Look at cars or at the extreme of fashion.”

        Cars are a bad example. Cars get more expensive every year because companies load them up with stuff like airplay or writing sms on your board-computer which rarely anyone uses. thats not what the people wanted. thats what marketing-people thought people would want. people need cheap transportation. It degraded cars into a status-product in the western civilisation.

        nvm it doesnt matter, too much off topic.
        _______
        When you state how you would use the new Opera feature, first of all, like the user NIBB down there explains, its not really what you explained in the update-post.
        “Now your list can spread across multiple shopping sites. …Create a list of options from across airlines and share them with your partner.”

        These examples are not really specific. “Spread across multiple shopping sites”, what does that even mean?
        Almost noone books a specific airline today, people search on price-comparison sites. Noone sends their friend a link with different airlines. Those examples are weird and not practicable.

        btw. the fact is, that people want to share NEW public-links, and not something they had bookmarked for a half year.
        It seems Opera doesnt know what they are aiming at. They add stash for “quicker-bookmarks” but then tell us we can share our real bookmarks. It should be the other way around.
        For a suggestion you could fix that.

        I can only say that Opera comes way too late with that feature. People do that already with google-documents where everyone can add text/urls/ AND comment them simultaneous. Thats what every student does, even people who are not into computers doe that.

        Or they use facebook groups and dropbox, basically thats covering the majority of people. And on their phones, they share stuff with whatsapp.

        Opera covers none of that with their new feature. And due to the low market-share of Opera, it wont really matter.

      • Hunk

        If you read comments on this blog you can easily see that users want proper sync. And you don’t need to ask them if they want it or make surveys. “People like to do that”.

        It doesn’t make share bookmarks feature bad, but why this feature is in new developer and sync is not? If It’s not stable – make it stable and enable by default.

        Dunno about you, but in my world sync functionality > than bookmarks sharing. But still Opera continues to bend the line. That’s why i changed the browser, because i barely see any discussion. Like P0lip said in this blog you listen and agree to return something after a year maybe. That’s to long for me to wait.

        • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

          > If you read comments on this blog you can easily see that users want proper sync

          We always said we are working on it and we are!

          • Hunk

            I installed Opera 26 on my PC and sync doesn’t work for me. Android Opera doesn’t have sync as well. How long has it been from first release? One year? Two? Take your time. Users will wait.

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            I understand your frustration somehow, but you have to understand there is nothing we can really do. Sync is a complicated beast. If you are a software engineer up for the challenge, apply and help us do it faster 😉

          • Hunk

            Thanks for answering, and yes i understand that it is hard to develop a browser but Opera Presto has sync, so do the other browsers. Yet you spend time on small and unfinished features. Just why? Why no basic functionality in Opera Blink since first release (like manual bookmarks import/export). And what about old Opera features?

            Please, understand me. It’s been quite a shock when i read news about engine switching, like all these years of protecting Opera browser and tries to advise people just to try this browser, were spent for nothing. Now Opera looks like Chromium clone with another theme.

            I don’t see any respect from you guys for old Opera, like you are hating it or something. If it was so bad there won’t be so many “haters” in comments. Opera was my default browser since version 9. I used to use Opera Mini and Mobile afterwards. Today only on my job i keep using Opera 12.17. It’s became slow, unresponsive, has problems with websites like google. It’s hard to switch on Firefox cause it’s really pain to install all extensions, configure everything to match Opera functionality (already done it at home, more than enough) but i have to someday. And talking about Opera Blink, i can’t, even if i do my best, make it closer to old Opera browser. Hope my english isn’t so bad and you understand what i want to say. Thanks.

          • Dave pete

            Yep I agree with Hunk. opera was my default browser since 2007. ( I first used Internet on 2006 ). Since then I always advice people to use opera. because it has more options than a traditional browser. Good browsing Speed. but had some minor issues with website compability. but now opera is fully working with almost every site but we missed all the functions which made opera unique. I know You guys work hard. but you haven’t done anything unique , people to change their browser from chrome to Opera

          • flashmozzg

            You might want to take a look at that: http://otter-browser.org/

          • Fhury

            Perhaps you could satisfy a lot of people that are requesting sync by providing the most basic html import/export function, so we can sync by hand :)

          • Laga Mahesa

            I would prefer that, so I could use Dropbox instead of a feature that may or may not work and may or may not be considered stable before 2050.

          • rufu2

            Agree, and even after sync is fully ready it is still necessary to have a html import and export for bookmarks.

          • AshenTech

            um, syncing bookmarks/sessons/ect shouldnt be that hard really….perhaps its how you are attempting to empliment it?

            I have used dropbox and google drive to store old opera for a very long time, you can also set the opera profiles folder to be synced with googledrive, dropbox, spideroak or hell even ftpbox if you wana run your own sync server.

            now, doing this between android and windows and mac and linux may take a bit more work but, the basic idea should still be doable without it being stupidly complex.

            my suggestion would be to look at a way to use something like btsync to sync the session and bookmark info between devices, as it would be direct peer to peer, if you format the files the same on all os’s it should be possible to implement without the “complicated beast” you seem to be struggling with.

            just a thought, what i would do is add a “sync” button to the browser and rclick option to “sync tab” that could then be opened on your tablet/phone/other system if you wanted(easy pulldown menu would work)

            im not a programmer, but, I been working with you crazy people for enough years that, i know sometimes, we all get stuck in one way of thinking/doing things and, it takes an outside perspective/viewpoint/idea to help break that.

            if you havent checked out btsync you should, its great for sharing files directly between systems without alot of the bs we tend to deal with using 3rd party services.

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            It’s a bit more than one year by the way … Not really long in terms of software development. Try building a browser … It’s not that easy 😉

          • P0lip

            Nobody said it is, but the truth is you’ve taken Chromium and you only improve it, so don’t say you did something from scratch. I don’t know how much you contribute on Chromium as it’s difficult to notice your email ending with opera.com – I guess some of you are under chromium.org. Anyway, you just participate in this project, which is mainly maintained by Google and its developers, so well… During one year you have done nothing, to be frank. I uninstall Opera based on Presto everywhere where possible, because most of modern sites aren’t compatible with it due to lack of some new APIs. Also, when I develop, I don’t look at Opera (Presto) as much as before. Sorry for my words, I know it’s unkind, but this is the truth. Many of us here are just very disappointed, many are gone, many will be gone. I know you are supposed to defend Opera, but honestly, do you use Opera? I guess, you don’t.

          • Laga Mahesa

            ‘Disappointed’. How diplomatic. I would have used ‘betrayed’. Opera users, including myself, used to be rabid evangelists. We had a quality product that had no close competitors. No more.

          • SQL

            Opera does contribute quite a bit – have a look https://operasoftware.github.io/upstreamtools/

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            I use Opera and I like it. IMHO the design is by far the nicest you can get of all current browsers.

          • P0lip

            You are right, the design is awesome :). That’s why I use Firefox with Opera-like theme.
            Some questions for you:
            Custom theme in Opera? Custom background isn’t a theme.
            Custom scrollbars – width, color, background? I don’t mean css’ -webkit-scrollbar property, but each scrollbar in the browser
            Sidebar in Opera?
            Powerful extensions that can change browser’s behavior and its apperance? For example like https://addons.mozilla.org/pl/firefox/addon/classicthemerestorer/?src=userprofile https://addons.mozilla.org/pl/firefox/addon/theme-font-size-changer/?src=cb-dl-rating https://addons.mozilla.org/pl/firefox/addon/download-status-bar/?src=cb-dl-rating
            Working sync?
            RSS reader?
            Tabs grouping?
            Private tab?
            Sorry for the tone, but you are just defending a crappy product without any good features besides speed dial.

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            You are free to think whatever you want … but even if I would not work at Opera, it would still be my browser of choice

          • Lacedaemon

            Did you block (as a software engineer who knows so much more than us) sitecheck2.opera.com with a firewall rule or using hosts? Or do you like your data to be sniffed by NSA and other disgusting agencies spying at your or your family’s private life? You should never trust a company no matter how “benevolent” its intentions are because it’s just a company… it’s there for money.

          • Diamond

            Firefox awesome? Earlier you did not need a thing like classic theme restorer because all customization options have been in the browser.

            Firefox is moving in the same direction like Opera did… in the Chrome one, because they do not believe that customization is relevant anymore these days!

            But that is wrong!

          • P0lip

            You are true, but you can still change a lot of stuff in Firefox. Although, they change their UI, you can revert it to the old one. You have a choice – in Chrome or Opera you don’t have any choice. You are forced to use something you don’t have to like.

          • Diamond

            To have a choice… changes nothing that Mozilla is a short sighted company which gives also a rats ass about their former Geek user base!

            In fact i would say only a handful browser devs still do care for advanced users wishes – Seamonkey or Maxthon 4 for Windows, or something like Slimjet – Chromium based, but that devs do enhance it with quite much customization features, or Pale Moon, or something like Qupzilla or Otter-Browser.

            The rest is just a lobby bought piece of garbage!

          • Laga Mahesa

            You built a very good browser that everyone loved. Now you’re building a shell around a browser that Google built.

          • flashmozzg

            what about tab groping? And session management?

        • Leonardo Gomes

          It doesn’t make share bookmarks feature bad, but why this feature is in new developer and sync is not?

          Maybe because bookmarks sharing is ready for it ans sync isn’t?

          If It’s not stable – make it stable and enable by default.

          I don’t think it’s that simple.

      • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

        Argument is more about priorities I guess.
        This feature would have been warmly welcomed if all that missing basic stuff was already in (sync, import/export, private tabs…).

        • http://www.youtube.com/user/max1cp?feature=mhum Maxim

          I don’t think private tabs will ever be a feature again. :p

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            I still keep wishing… *sigh*

          • AshenTech

            give them 5 or so years, then perhaps they will finish opera blink…..they are to busy at the moment working on blink itself to put that much effort into features we all expected from opera when they said the new opera would have the same features as the old one….like the ability to move your addybar/tabs bar/ect where you want….

            no biggie, im guessing by then, a new browser will have launched and drawn even more users away from opera…

            i loved opera, and want to love the new opera…but, its hard to love something that feels like a feature stripped version of chrome, a browser i was never all that fond of due to many small things…still better the firefox but…..far from perfect/great….

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

            “features we all expected from opera when they said the new opera would have the same features as the old one”
            Opera always explicitly pointed out that this new browser will never ever become a clone of versions up to 12.

          • Vux777

            but they never said why…
            what was so wrong in Presto UI design that is almost blasphemous for (today) O-developers?
            It’s not everyday that company ditch all previous work, and start completely new direction.
            And so far every article, forum posts, discussions… about new Opera that I’ve read, was full of negative comments, particularity about rejecting old features and lack of it in new app
            ..so why persisting on that philosophy?

          • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142
          • Vux777

            but they never said why…
            what was so wrong in Presto UI design that is almost blasphemous for (today) O-developers?
            It’s not everyday that company ditch all previous work, and start completely new direction.
            And so far every article, forum posts, discussions… about new Opera that I’ve read, was full of negative comments, particularity about rejecting old features and lack of it in new app
            ..so why persisting on that philosophy?

          • AshenTech

            no, early on they really didnt, they made it sound like they where just swapping rendering engines, not scrapping the whole of what made opera so popular with many of its users and moving to something that just seems like chrome or safari with stuff missing.

            dont get me wrong, i like opera 2x but it is not what we where lead to believe it would be, and i doubt it will ever get there…..and thats sad to me, because, i mis being able to move my tabs and addy bar to the bottom more then any other missing feature….and i dont feel like learning to edit xml files to get that back

      • ForsakenFx

        > Personally, I can’t really see anything wrong if a company decides to add a feature to a product because that would be modern. This sounds like bringing the product up to the state of the art and would be considered product maintenance. Unless you want a product to die, you have to do this. Look at cars or at the extreme of fashion.

        The issue is you’re adding shiny features which aren’t exactly a priority when there are core features still missing (import/export of bookmarks), and major usability issues.

        While it’s true that not adding new shiny features can lead to a product dying, it is much more dangerous to ignore your customer base and focus on those shiny features when the functionality and development path of your product is seriously in question.

    • Herr Pietrus

      Sharing bookmarks will be probably as popular as sharing files from our hard drives was… Meanwhile many other problems could be fixed…

    • FoolOfATook

      I understand where you’re coming from, and the examples they quoted don’t particularly appeal to me, but I definitely see the merit in this function. Also, how is it spam? It’s giving you a new option. Doesn’t mean you have to use it. I’m not sure what you mean by “adult-videosites” though. Maybe you’re afraid it’s going to clutter the UI?

      At any rate, I do find it puzzling that they add features that have questionable merit from their audience, when there are so many core functions of the old Opera (from what I can tell; unfortunately, I was one of those all-too-common sobs who never bothered to try Opera). Opera seemed to be unique, feature-rich, feature-unique, and, honestly, most probably objectively the best browser. The only reason I can tell as to why it didn’t do well was because:
      a) people are sheep
      b) referencing “a”, they never heard of it, so hence never bothered to try it
      c) the rendering engine puked all over websites on the Web, by no fault of theirs, because there’s too many **** that don’t conform to WC3 standards and code specifically for certain browsers, knowingly screwing over the experience for others. Also contributing to why people didn’t like Opera.

      “a” you can’t do very much about, “b” is doable, and “c” is no longer a problem. So… why not recreate the best browser ever again? It’s been mentioned many times before I’m sure, but the (predominant?) expectation was that Opera would just wrap their innovation and UI around Chrome when they made the switch. It would still be the same browser, just faster, without rendering issues to contend with, and the same great feature sets.

      Especially when you consider that the large majority of Opera’s historic userbase have been (and probably still are) powerusers. I don’t know. Maybe they’re just trying to broaden the audience. Can’t really blame them for that now can you? Or can you?

  • Rick Bergmann

    Nice update. Now I’m really starting to like the new Opera. Hopefully soon we’ll see a new Dragonfly.

  • Emanuele

    sigh… after seeing another useless (to me) feature like this I can’t have any other doubt… definitely not my browser anymore (’till now I still hoped in it… foolish me)

  • http://themindflow.net Andrey Starostin

    Can you say something about memory consumption?
    If i create new tab and then close it, process not closed and after some time (close and open new tabs) i need to close opera, because all memmory is filled with opera processes.

    • Rafael Luik

      The processes actually represent individual renders not tabs. A couple of tabs might share one renderer (1 opera.exe) so when you close just one of them the process won’t be killed (although I believe the RAM usage of this process will decrease).

      • http://themindflow.net Andrey Starostin

        Simple test:
        1. open new tab with some url
        2. close tab
        3. goto 1

        Make many iteration, and check free memory.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          I’ve tried it and free memory usage usually returned to previous numbers or to something very close.

  • ledgori

    Still miss import/Export and synchronisation for bookmarks.

    • siamak

      Still missing Sync on everything!!!

      • Marko Koivuniemi

        Still NOT missing ’N Sync

        • FoolOfATook

          What?

          • Lacedaemon

            You must be pretty young, ’N Sync was a popular boy-band in the mid to late 90’s , so that is a joke he made :)

          • FoolOfATook

            Oh lol kk

        • Mikolaj Boc

          Haha! :)

    • Sla Master

      Opera link for bookmarks, notes and speed dail! Let’s hope Opera 26 gets it back!

      • siamak

        yea note, that feature I missed it so much from opera presto

        • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

          You mean notes or sync?

          • siamak

            Note, one of biggest reasons i steel using opera presto as main browser.

          • oic

            try chrome extension, LinkedNotes

            Its not as good as opera 12 notes, but its the closest I could get it

          • siamak

            and for sure biggest reason is Perfect side panels

          • Šapke Šaulić ‘ebe keve

            Any chance of adding DuckDuckGo as one of the built in search engines? I think I’m not as demanding as others. :)

      • http://eliotime.com/ eliotime3000

        Agreed with you.

    • P0lip

      Maybe in 42 :D. They must redesign UI :D.

    • ArkhamParkinson

      Opera Link still not working on Opera Blink.

      PS: I miss the old Opera Link, too!

  • Женя Т…

    I expected synchronization :(

    • P0lip

      Don’t expect anything as they don’t listen to you anyway. They just come to see whether someone posted a new bug, nothing else. :(

      • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

        It’s sad that you think so, but I assure you this is not true. Actual developers read most of the comments. We take user comments as one possible input on what to do next.

        • P0lip

          Well, a lot of users share my opinion. I didn’t say they don’t read the comments, because they do, but our voice isn’t taken seriously. Anyway, I wish you good luck :)

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            I would say this is hardly the same thing. We actually put a lot of effort into maintaining this blog and replying to comments, explaining what we do and why we do things.

            How can you say we never listened?
            People on this blog asked very loudly for bookmarks, here they are. People on this blog asked for a Linux version: here it is. You can’t possibly expect us to develop every single thing that people ask here and never do anything that was not asked. Sharing is not a random feature. We thought very carefully about if and why we need it.

            IMHO it’s also unfair to judge our direction by the kind of examples the developers that wrote the blog posts have chosen. It’s not like there was a weeklong discussion about that within Opera: Real developers write the posts themselves and if a few other people proofreading the post can’t find anything weird / wrong, it’s just published. The examples are meant to be funny / inspiring / simple. Don’t take them as direction of development.

          • P0lip

            “very loudly for bookmarks” You provided us a really simple bookmarks without any features – after over one year of asking.
            “Linux version” – also one year of waiting.
            Other featues… We don’t want much, just a recycle bin, some really tiny tweaks which would make our life easier. Nothing else, small things. Frankly, I must admit I shouldn’t be a part of this conversation, because I don’t use Opera anyway. I used it for over 9 years, but now it simply sucks. Sorry, but you don’t give us anything special. Opera turbo doesn’t interest me, discover is useless, no email client, no rss feader. Bookmarks sharing is a cool idea and I think a lot of people will love it. Also, I agree with you on this part “You can’t possibly expect us to develop every single thing that people ask here and never do anything that was not asked”. This is actually true as it’s always nice to be surprised :). Although, I’d love to use Opera, I can’t because of lack important features. Sorry, I hope you will include some of our wishes. Just some, the most important ones in your opinion. We don’t want much. Thank you in advance!

            PS. It’s nothing against you, I saw you contributed on PDF.js and this is really cool and I appreciate it! Have a good night

          • taneli

            1) Thanks for that response.
            2) Most of the people are used to the Opera 12 mindset, “to have much features, such cool”, so ofcourse they will be wanting these features from the new Opera too, in one form or another (be it in the browser, or via an Extension (about the Extensions though, release more API stuff, like, sockets to make an email extension for POP3/IMAP)
            3) The Examples are just fine.
            4) Effort into maintaining this blog? What does that mean, this is very hard for many users to use the whole Disqus thingie, do you also have to do something to maintain it? Any thoughts if you should replace it? (so much of these blog posts are whining about the communication platform (Disqus) that you should probably rethink that sometime).

          • http://www.tbochenek.de thorbenb

            Just about 4: I mean the developers actually reading, commenting and maybe acting on comments.

          • FoolOfATook

            Just wanted to ask: Why do people dislike Disqus so much? I’ve never understood why. I personally love it.

          • Wando Schneider

            I can’t agree more.

          • Wraith

            Maybe the Opera team listen but always respond in a twisted way that is hard of understand (or weird), like this new sharing function, but they tend to forget about the important things for example: import/export function which is a fundamental thing in bookmarking.

          • Charles0815

            Where is a Linux version? I can find a debian file only . Where is the version for example for opensuse and so on? If you say there is a linux version, then you know nothing about linux.

        • NIBB

          And Opera should be happy for it. Imagine the day people don’t complain anymore and the blog is without comments. Where is Opera going to get its feedback?

          To be honest I think allot of users that posted months before are gone. They don’t even bother to lose 5 minutes writing something anymore. Not all comments are useful, but if you see a trend in most comments not liking something, it must be for a reason. It means users share an equal opinion about something.

  • SQL

    This actually does seem very cool!

    I think one really cool thing would be to add the shared bookmarks that you’re viewing – to your own browser? :)

    Like someone made a cool link collection and i’d like to save those links for future usage – i could just press a button and those bookmarks would get added that way? :)

    I think that’d be too complicated, no? I don’t know if it’s possible atm and how’d you do it with other browsers..

    • WOFall

      You already can, click the big red button on the share page.

      • SQL

        Oh really?

        Well, then it’s awesome already! 😀

  • Oskar

    Seems cool and maybe it’s useful. On my wishlist right now:

    1. Opera Link

  • rabe85

    – The name of my ‘Share’ starts on the main share-page each time with a big letter. I called it “test”, but it shows “Test” on the main share-page. It works right in a subfolder (shows “test > New folder”).
    – Some more informations to each ‘share’ on the “Shared by me” page would help. Maybe count the links and folders. And add a timestamp.
    – Can the error message have more details or a better text, which i get if i want to extend a 14 day valid share?
    – The heart icon is red, if i open my own share. And it is red, if i disable bookmarks sharing. But not anymore after i clicked at the text on top of the page “Shared Bookmarks from Opera” to reload the page. 3x why?

  • Lacedaemon

    Awaiting someone with a hat to tell us how Opera Presto was bloated with useless features (that were hogging down the browser of course…), but this isn’t…

    • SQL

      I think this is something new and cool. More useful than a built-in irc client 😀

      • Lacedaemon

        Yeah man can’t wait for the world and the NSA to see my porn bookmarks after the cloud server gets sniffed/hacked as well…

        • SQL

          I don’t really know what you’re talking about – it’s up to you if you want to upload them.

          • Lacedaemon

            So it’s THAT useful then… :)

          • FoolOfATook

            ….Wut? *scratches head*

            @disqus_3M0bVH90cs:disqus: I agree it could be improved, but it does tell you after clicking on the share button that you are sharing eg “Unsorted bookmarks”, and it also gives you a link to “Learn more”. Although the problem is that you don’t know that the first time you use it; will it automatically share all of it, without asking for confirmation? What kind of share? Cloud/local? Basically, you can figure it out by using it, the only problem is the confirmation part because not knowing what will happen when you click the “Share” button is actually okay, what matters is that you won’t know if you’ll get a chance to confirm it. Know what I mean?

          • Guest

            Dumb Disqus, stupid bugs. The latter part of my above comment was directed at you @disqus_3M0bVH90cs:disqus

          • Guest

            @disqus_3M0bVH90cs:disqus

          • FoolOfATook

            Dumb Disqus, the latter part of my above comment was directed at you NoName

          • Lacedaemon

            …Wut? *scratches head*

            He said “it’s up to you if you want to upload them.”

            So if i don’t upload them, this “feature” isn’t any useful to me, is it?

          • FoolOfATook

            Oh. I read it in the wrong tone. that =/= that

          • Lacedaemon

            yeah… it’s english… they way you pronounce it should tell you its meaning. Only in english….

          • FoolOfATook

            I’m not so sure about that. At the very least it’s the same in Chinese.

          • NoName

            Yes, it does tell you that the bookmark are located in the current folder. And that’s fine. The share button is already on the folder context, so that makes sense.

            But is says the exact same if you selected 4 (out of many) within the folder. So you don’t know from within the popup, that you are only sharing the 4 instead of the whole folder.

        • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

          You do realise that sharing shares a sub-selection, that you select. It doesn’t share all your bookmarks.

          • NoName

            The UI does not tell you that.

            The “Share” button is above the marked line, meaning it’s in another context than the bookmark items.
            So I assume that it always share everything for that folder, and not what’s selected.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            If you share a folder then everything on that folder will be shared.
            However you can share only selected bookmarks inside a folder.

          • NoName

            That’s also what i was responded to. As said, you can’t see when the “Share” button does what.

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Well, if you don’t select any specific bookmarks, the share button will, hmm, share the whole folder. If any bookmark inside that folder is selected, only this one will be shared.

            Not so hard to know.

          • NoName

            I just say what I’m thinking about the UI. We might disagree. Others here didn’t knew it either.

            I’m a programmer, and also creates UI for non-techies on a daily basis. My guess is, that most don’t know this by instinct.

    • P0lip

      Yeah, you are always so true. I’m not saying this feature is useless, but well… I guess the next function will be a tab instead of window. Not earlier than 27-28, though. It takes a lot of time to include it and that would bloat Opera :D:D.

    • plague

      The irony is that they used to say Bookmarks were not important and hardly ever used, less than a year ago, and now they are apparently very important and used all the time. 😉

      Not that I mind the Bookmark-sharing feature.. I guess it’s cool.

      I do mind the inability to do any customization to the UI whatsoever though. That is my number one wish/request/priority.

      And no, adding an extension button next to the URL bar does not count as customizing the UI.

      I want full control. I want to be able to add or remove whatever I want to and from the UI.

      Or, at the _very least_, be able to add custom text-input boxes on the toolbar, not just extension buttons.

      I would prefer having a built-in email client again aswell, but I can live without that.
      After that though, I’d be satisfied. :)

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      In the Presto era, those were a plague you couldn’t rationally convince of anything.

      And yeah, where are they now?

  • x a

    Crashes reproducibly on Ctrl-K. [Win8.1/64bit]

    I like the fact, that shared bookmarks have a default shelf-life of 14 days.

    • Veger

      Same on Linux. The crash is prevented/fixed when opera://flags#tab-menu is enabled

      • http://www.blackcoder.de blackcoder

        I can confirm that the crash is prevented when that flag is enabled.

        Windows 8.1 64-bit

    • http://www.blackcoder.de blackcoder

      Confirmed.

      Windows 8.1 64-bit

    • FoolOfATook

      Confirmed on Win7x64.

  • http://www.DH2Publishing.info/Blogged Dierk

    Personally I’d rather see fully working synchronisation between platforms. I want to work with the same Speed Dial and bookmarks on Windows, several Android devices, and possibly Mac/iOS.

    • _artem_

      had to copy config files from windows to linux in order to have same speed-dials and manually reinstall and reconfigure extensions (because MOST of the extensions, don’t have BACKUP SETTINGS :( which is pain when you have to manually copy paste list of whitelisted and/or blacklisted elements/ads and so on – in case of ad blocking extensions)

  • Roby

    When are you going to bring the sync feature back???
    You dropped a super important, super useful feature when switching to the new engine and I’ve seen no mention of it ever since! ALMOST EVERY OTHER BROWSER OUT THERE CAN DO IT NOW!
    I could care less about you playing with bookmarks :C
    People nowadays have several computers, not to mention smartphones and tablets. SYNC IS A MUST, GO WORK ON IT PLEASE!

  • _artem_

    why notifications tray icon is gone? (couple of versions ago it was removed… why?) guess after today’s pushbullet update I started to get notifications again… I was surprised as notification appeared, haven’t seen them since opera 23-24 (dev) I guess. I even wrote an extension to check if notifications are working… they did work. then checked pushbullet’s sources and saw that it uses chrome notifications (not a surprise because I installed it from chrome’s web store surprise) instead of opera’s implementation (opera notifications api page said that you are working on chrome’s implementation…). but since now it’s working (not after opera update but on new pushbullet version as of today v111)

    now what’s really missing is notifications tray stack. please add it back in the next dev builds

  • senja1

    After this update I have black screen. Whatever I open.

    • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

      Add ” –disable-impl-side-painting” to Opera shortcut.

      • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

        Thank you!!!

      • tom5345

        thank you

        What exactly do this do?

        • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

          It disables the “impl-side-painting” (a new experimental type of renderer) which is causing problem.

          • _artem_

            I have no problems. that flag is set to “Default” for me.

            win 8.1

  • _artem_

    will opera 27 dev have native x64 builds?

  • Nekomajin43

    Will you add a manual expiration date option to the share feature? It would be good to have infinite (many years) expiration date for certain collections. If I want to share some links permamently, it will be a pain in the ass to extend it every two weeks. We have a HTML5 date picker, so why don’t you use it?

  • Vorpal

    No feelings about this update. I even have nothing new to say. Still waiting for fully working sync, further improvements of Bookmarks and SD, support of RSS feeds in the Discover and other stuff.
    Thanks for you work, although.

  • tom5345

    All pages are completly black, settings, webpages, about site – everything :(

    • Zik

      –no-experiments

      • tom5345

        you are saying to disable all “experiments”?

        • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

          Add ” –no-experiments” or ” –disable-impl-side-painting” to Opera shortcut.

        • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

          –disable-impl-side-painting works as a temporary solution, then go to flags disable it permanently and leave the rest untouched, restart and you’re set.

    • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

      Just came to say the same, a fresh profile works fine, but upgrading ruins all of it.

  • Mike

    Yea… lost all my cookies… great update!

  • Deus Ex Vino

    Cat videos? Damn “cat videos”? Whoever is in charge – make sure his orders arent replaced by his elderly secretary.

  • God

    *repost*

    I have a suggestion.
    In Opera, when I thumb through photos on Facebook and download which i like, I CAN’T continue flipping album by pressing arrows. To continue flipping, I have to click on the page.
    In Chrome, the focus does not change and I can continue to browse photos and save them without interrupting.

    http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1311/1467/original.jpg

  • dflyra

    I’m not very happy with this new release. First of all, Speed-dial is much slower than before like it’s loading frame to frame. I couldn’t care less about share. In fact, I’d like to share bookmarks & speed-dial settings with any computer I use and I can’t because synchronization isn’t working! The open tabs outline button is a fine touch but how can I get rid of the useless ‘settings’ button?

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    On http://www.wiesbadener-kurier.de/index.htm the automatic changing of the themes (“dia show”) is not working (first area) and also not the displaying of the threads while hoovering the headlines with the mouse cursor. In Chrome and FF it works. W7x64.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      By theme change you mean that are on the left with about four “news” and a big image tha changes according to the selected “news”? If so it seems to be working here.

      • Ralf Brinkmann

        Hi Leonardo! Yes, that’s exactely what I wanted to say. And the strange thing is: Today it works. Maybe it was only a temporary intolerance of or with Opera.

  • FrankyBoy1234

    jo, make a rpm maybe?

    • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard
      • FrankyBoy1234

        i would _think_ you have a buildserver, so why do people have to do this manually still?

        • http://ruario.ghost.io/ Ruarí Ødegaard

          Indeed but at this stage we are not ready to take on supporting more formats, directly.

  • John Smith

    Still waiting for vertical tabs… Don’t care about sharing bookmarks better would like to see proper sync. Miss RSS reader.

    • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

      Have you had a go with opera://flags#tab-menu ?

      • http://themindflow.net Andrey Starostin

        It’s not usable for now, because it’s disappear if i click on page.

      • L33t4opera

        Hi Daniel, in this build, it is quite nice feature, which seems to have great potential. I like to use it even right now (still in this early state of development), together with the “Tab Previews” feature, I like also Shift+Click (or Middle-Click) to close the tab. It would be nice: 1. Cycle through open tabs by holding right button, and rolling mouse wheel (as it is in the old Opera), and on Linux click on the Tab menu’s button, to open it (like on Windows), not only Ctrl+K shortcut 😉

      • HellBrick

        Oh, it’s nice to finally see this button working! I’m glad to have at least some kind of a workaround for the tab selection. However, I’m afraid it’s not enough to replace the proper vertical tabs.

        First of all, neither the tab menu nor the tab menu button are docked to the window border, and thus both require some sort of precision to use. Compare them to the current tab bar: when the browser is maximized or snapped, the tab bar is always at the very top of the screen, and you can simply move the mouse up, the monitor border will stop you. The elements that are docked to the borders effectively have infinite height/width and are much more convenient to use.

        The next problem is the tab menu is collapsed by default. Imagine 2-3 Opera windows opened with a lot of tabs in every one of them: having the vertical tab list displayed all the time would allow to determine which window is the one that contains the ‘google session’ you need to switch to right now in a quick glance. The horizontal tab bar doesn’t allow it because you can’t read the tab headers on it; the tab menu doesn’t allow it because it’s closed by default; but the vertical tabs would save the day.

        (As a side note, take a look at FF’s ‘tree-style tabs’ extension – that’s a brilliant solution for the ‘a lot of structured tabs’ case. It would be great if Opera’s version of the vertical tabs took some inspiration in it.)

        Also, the tab peak doesn’t seem to be working with the tab menu. For the old tab bar the lack of tab peak wouldn’t be so significant, but these previews are crucial for the dropdown menu that’s closed when you click a tab.

        • https://www.aeyoun.com/ Daniel Aleksandersen

          … speaking of docking, … Does anyone remember the early screenshots of this feature? Just saying. 😉

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Hmm, nope.

          • rufu2

            No, sorry, can’t remember. Could you find the link, please?

          • Cjcr

            No.

      • John Smith

        That is not even close to vertical tabs in O12

  • VIctor

    I like Opera way – new features for each version. It is so Opera!
    Bravo!

  • Adoxographist

    Not to sure if it is only just me. But when I try to open “new private window”, the browser crashes.

    • http://www.blackcoder.de blackcoder

      I can not confirm a crash when opening a new private window.

    • Marcin Mitek

      We recently fixed a bug with opening private window. Make sure that you are using latest build. If it’s still reproducible, file a bug.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Try disable sync.

  • http://weaselzippers.us/ CaryF

    What kind of voodoo does it take to launch the browser in maximum view? The last few builds, it seems about the only time it will launch full screen is when the browser starts after installation. As it is, I am getting a reduced size window centered in the middle of my desktop. Windows 8.1 x64.

    • http://www.blackcoder.de blackcoder

      I guess normally it should store it’s window size/state when closing. You probably already tried to maximize the window and restart Opera then, right?

      • http://weaselzippers.us/ CaryF

        Yes sir I did. It’s not that simple…this is new behavior that started in Opera 25 a few builds ago. I even tried a command line “start maximized”switch directed at the Opera executable, and changing the shortcut parameter to maximized window to no avail. I’ve tried starting with a new profile…no difference.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Strange, here Opera always opens maximized as i always close it on that state.

          There is a line regarding it on the Preferences file.

        • FoolOfATook

          Haven’t tried the cmd-line switch, have tried the shortcut. I googled it and it seems it’s a program-specific thing (in this scenario at least). Opera bug most likely.

  • taneli

    It’s still a bit silly, that my browser eats 4 gigs of memory with 0 tabs open.
    (After having several tabs open, browsing some forums, some social sites)
    Close all the tabs -> still 4 gigs of mem used on “GPU process”.

    • http://www.blackcoder.de blackcoder

      How much memory is installed in your machine?
      How much memory is free while Opera uses 4 GB?
      Do you notice slowdowns because of this?

      If you have a lot of memory, there is still free memory and you don’t notice any slowdowns of your system then why do you care?

      • taneli

        16GB, sometimes plenty of free memory, sometimes not so much.
        And was just wondering what’s up with that.
        And yes, there are a heck of a lot slowdowns in this version (slow opening of the SD, sluggish internal pages, scrolling on some pages with 1 “big” image (1200 * 2000 px) takes ¨5 seconds for the page to actually scroll.

      • FoolOfATook

        Even if everything runs fine, you should care. Just because a supercomputer can run a terribly coded/unoptimized program with memory leaks left right and centre doesn’t mean that the program is fine.

  • sbs73000

    Tab menu is a nice thing, but its button is impossible to see on Windows with a dark theme.

  • Leonardo Gomes

    New flags:

    Synchronize opened tabs
    Windows, Linux
    Enables opened tabs synchronization.
    #sync-tabs

  • NIBB

    What a stupid idea to be honest. Bookmarks are not something users tend to share. Almost all websites have sharing buttons and if someone wants to share a link with someone he will surely not save it to his bookmarks first and share it after it. Leave the stash for that temporary stuff, bookmarks are usually more permanent urls.

    Bookmarks are usually addresses which are hard to remember which you need to access from time to time, like in this age of cloud services, logins to some control panel or services. Nice way to have people sharing by mistake their url to a private login or interface. Awful ! I can see many people sharing by mistake something they don’t want to share or even make public. Bookmarks are private stuff, not public. There are plenty of public sharing links already for sharing moms recipes and cats. Is this the new Opera, recipes and cats? How old are Opera designers? 8?

    Why does not Opera just focus on making a browser? Let other people and company build services on top of it, Opera does not need to become another social browsers…there are plenty of failed social browsers experiments before and people are moving away from sharing everything online, in particular because of security/privacy reasons. If you want users to distrust Opera then start to add links to external parties and share buttons all over it. Why not add a share button to your Opera config as well or on the private tabs?

    Who is coming up with this ideas at Opera… A not needed share button when we don’t even have a decent bookmark managed on the stable version yet.

    • Mark Lavrijsen

      I share links with my friends very often, and do not want to use traditional social media for that. You THINKING that bookmarks are private does not make it true for everyone(and you can selectively share bookmarks…the rest stay private ).
      Al those insults you make only shows what an immature assh*le you are.

  • Hookah1388 .

    #warn-about-insecure-content #warn-about-insecure-content #warn-about-insecure-content #warn-about-insecure-content #warn-about-insecure-content #warn-about-insecure-content #warn-about-insecure-content #warn-about-insecure-content Please for the love of everything. #warn-about-insecure-content. The fact that the way Opera has been blocking content the past 5 builds is full of errors, remove the feature or add back opera://flags #warn-about-insecure-content

    • L33t4opera

      Hi, if you want to allow to run insecure content, why you just not try "...launcher.exe" --allow-running-insecure-content?

      • Hookah1388 .

        I wish I knew what you mean. Could you clarify?

        • L33t4opera

          “Although not recommended, you can also use the command line flag –allow-running-insecure-content to prevent Chrome from checking for insecure content.” – the source link.

          • Hookah1388 .

            Thank you for your informative reply!! Unfortunately, I cannot get this to work with Opera and there is no way to add the command line. I appreciate your help, however.

          • Hookah1388 .

            Thank you for your informative reply. I added it the way you mentioned it, and it worked! I love you forever. You’re a real pal.

  • beBoss

    This green icon for user would be useful if do something, not to open settings page. And what can does? I think a user management is a great options.

  • Zin

    Again not exactly a feature most ppl would like to see….

    Ppl want to see some features from old Opera, i want to see IRC.

    Seriously, i’d like to see if there are hundreds of ppl somewhere asking for features like this…

  • https://twitter.com/Yarziel Raúl Garofano

    Notable differences in Opera Developer.

    25 Vs 26

    1) In the previous version showed different size fonts.

    2) This new version has problems that are more severe, it becomes slow:

    Speed ​​dial.

    Topics.

    Extensions.

    Downloads.

    Settings.

    Also becomes sluggish when opening and closing folders in the new speed dial.

    I prefer to stay with the bug of Opera Developer 25 jajaja

    • FoolOfATook

      Try disabling this and tell me how it goes.

      opera://flags/#impl-side-painting

      • https://twitter.com/Yarziel Raúl Garofano

        Works great, thanks.

        • FoolOfATook

          Glad to hear it :)

  • AngelSatan

    This is like sharing curated content . I can see the possibilities. Perhaps your significant other ask you the favor to look for a nice computer because you are a tech savvy person. So you start bookmarking on amazon, ebay, etc. Sort of amazon’s wish-list or pinterest ? Instead of sending a bunch of emails or copypasting links you could just do that , share your curated “content” .

    This is a useful feature.

  • sgunhouse

    So … anyone notice those two new buttons on the right side? The one in the tab bar is like the old Trash can – recently closed tabs. The one in the address bar seems to be a Settings button (seems redundant to me).

    • FoolOfATook

      I’m too lazy, which flags do those?

  • lehusan

    Ammm…I get this: http://i.imgur.com/B9x160W.png on every page, even preferences page, previous updates went well, but this one messed up everything :/ Deleting the Preferences file in profiledata doesn’t help. I’ve made some changes in flags – perhaps reseting flags will help, but how to reset it without accesing the flags page, cuz all i’m getting is on the screenshot above?

    • L33t4opera

      Hi, rename the “Local State” file to e.g. “Local State-old”, or launch the Opera with command line switch as follows “…launcher.exe” –no-experiments, then go to opera://flags/#impl-side-painting, and switch it off, and relaunch the Opera, and see if this help.

  • cgebhard

    When you close all other tabs in the tab menu, the size of the popup stays the same, although there’s just one entry left. Only when you reopen tab menu it’s being resized. (see attached image, Win8.1)

    • Kurt Zon

      seems to resize ok here (also Win8.1)

      • cgebhard

        Well, I had a clean install with no addons and no flags switched on but the tab menu. So maybe there’s another reason causing that issue…anyone else who can reproduce this?

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I’ve tried deleting one of the tabs listed and it was removed but its space remained.
      If i reopen the tab menu, everything is ok again.

      So i guess i can confirm the behavior.

  • http://znasibov.info/ Zaur Nasibov

    Dammit, submitted a bug report about print dialog :(

  • lil

    Will Opera Blink ever have a support for Full Bookmark Options (including the info and comment fields) like Opera Presto did? As it is Opera 26 bookmarks are useless to me.

  • RichardWalkman

    New Sunc page (“opera://sync-login”) cleaup all cookie. Beware. Both: New button and Prferences->Synhronization. Win7 x64.

    • IllusionMH

      Confirmed. I lost my cookies every time when trying to log in to opera sync service.

      Win 8.1 x64

  • GoustiFruit

    It seems they fired all the real developers from Opera.
    I switched to Firefox since around O15/16, hoping to come back to Opera once they would start incorporating great features back, but that never happened, and it seems, never will.

    • FoolOfATook

      You try building a browser from scratch and teling me how that goes for you. I’ll be waiting.

  • Bjørnar Berg

    How do I turn of the new speed dial? I tried it and did not like it…

    • Bjørnar Berg

      Yeah….I know. opera://flags. Found it!

  • Lacedaemon
    • FoolOfATook

      You can disable e-mail notifications. Wish they had a Show all comments. The biggest, most retarded thing though, is when I realized, just a while ago, that linking is completely broken. Freaking Disqus. It’s not even a bug too, it’s literally how it’s supposed to work.

      From the Disqus Commenting Documentation

      When using a permalink, comments below the paging threshold will display as the first comment of the thread. To view the comment in it’s original context, you’ll need to locate it while paging through the remaining comments within the thread.

      “You’ll need to locate it while paging through the remaining contents in the thread?”
      /sanity

      • Lacedaemon

        Sooner or later you will use my method :)

        Disgust is just horrendous… but Opera does not care… To quote an old comment… “It solved them many problems” – THEM.

        • FoolOfATook

          I agree with you, it’s about the audience. The thing is though, besides the horrible permalink comments on this thing (not giving context), it actually does a pretty good job. And actually I don’t use RSS feed, don’t think I’ll need to, I have it set up so I won’t get e-mail notifications. I just go to the Disqus site, which gives me an overview of replies and upvotes.

  • Tomáš Pavlík

    Nice! Better and better :)

  • inDigazzZ

    We should be able to set time after which tab will be hibernated.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      It would be interesting if we could set some tabs to not hibernate .

  • lil

    Videos on articles at http://www.vg.no won’t play with picture if using the AdBlock extension (https://addons.opera.com/nb/extensions/details/adblockforopera/). Audio works though. Also happens on http://www.vgtv.no.

    It has been like this for the last couple dev builds. Author of extension won’t try to fix since these are dev builds. And it works in Chrome.

  • Muhammad Ubaid Raza

    Cookies are being lost every now and then. Have to login almost everytime.

    • IllusionMH

      Try to turn off and do not touch Sync functionality(new button on toolbar and through Settings).
      Looks like that this functionality wipes cookies on my PC.

      • Leonardo Gomes

        Yep, it seems to have just happened here.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      No problems with cookies here so far.

  • Miś Uszatek

    Please add “Open all bookmarks” and other options also in opera://bookmarks. We have these options in Opera main menu. Why we need additional folder in Opera/Bookmarks/My Folders? This My Folder is 1 additional unnecessary step to reach some Bookmarks folder.

    • FoolOfATook

      I don’t think so actually. I see the logic behind the way it’s currently implemented. You have

      -Unsorted Bookmarks
      -My Folders
      -Folder 1
      -Folder 2
      -Folder 3
      -Shared by me
      -Bookmarks bar
      -Imported Bookmarks

      My Folders contains all user-created folders, and should be considered as the bookmarks library. Shared by me: your shared folders. All the other stuff is self-explanatory.

  • jun

    trying the new tabs-menu feature the only thing I can think is: you’ve built a so limited and castrated GUI toolkit that now you can’t even work on it as you could want and have to use pathetic popups for all because of it. Congratulations geniuses!!!

  • Enelen

    I am getting a complete black screen(http://i.imgur.com/sNoR03W.jpg) on all web pages, both internal and external. The tab previews appear okay (http://i.imgur.com/vqbiZ7f.jpg) and show web sites are loading correctly, just not displaying. I am using Windows 7 x64, have a few flags related to GPU and scrolling switched on (which I would try changing if not for the black screen) and the extensions in use are uBlock, Stylish, Disqus, Tampermonkey (Adsfight), Zenmate, ChromeIPass, and WIkiWand.

    • tom5345

      –disable-impl-side-painting on shortcut. then disable it in flags

      • Enelen

        That did the trick. Thank You!

  • Fhury

    Thanks for the new stuff! Could you please take a look at a long standing issue: the search engines… Are you bound to some contract with search providers? To me there seems to be no alternative excuse to provide the most basic kind of configuration options.

    • rufu2

      +10^10 :)

    • FoolOfATook

      I believe they are.

  • Fhury

    Any chance of getting a vote to get stash (read it later) back in some form??
    I wanted bookmarks back, but why scrap stash? What is the logic behind this? Why not keep it as a fourth option on the start screen?

    • Nekomajin43

      Why can’t you create a folder named stash in the bookmarks?

      • Fhury

        Then It is more clicks and screens away. It has a different view.
        Read it later is a common function in most browsers

        You can also ask why did Opera have stash…
        Why not have it as an extra option instead of scrapping it altogether?

        • Nekomajin43

          These reasons seem legit, but I can’t see why this is such a big problem. As a user, you can do everything with a few more clicks. As a developer, they have to maintain less redundant features. I don’t think the stash was used by many regular users, so it’s a little inconvenience for a few, but a big relief for the developers.

          • FoolOfATook

            It’s all about energy. Thermodynamics. Resources. Efficiency. That’s all it really is.

        • Lacedaemon

          Cause unsorted bookmarks with the implementation of context based search will be a much better Stash.

          • FoolOfATook

            I upvoted your comment, but Opera has it curently implemented as a superextension until they finish developing it, or something along those lines. It’s not going to be an extension when it’s finished is what I’m saying.

            Also, I think I would rather have Unsorted Bookmarks and Stash as 2 separate things. Unsorted Bookmarks are just that: Unsorted
            bookmarks, that I will later sort into my bookmarks repository. Stash would be for stuff that I want to save for later reading, in the short term, with no intention of keeping it and having it in my bookmarks library later.

  • Eugene Galonsky

    Can’t drag bookmark from Bookmarks Screen to Bookmarks Panel.

  • Lacedaemon

    Tab previews in tab menu sometimes work, sometimes not. Altogether, it takes ages for them to show up.

    • FoolOfATook

      It adds it to the menu-list for me, but the menu list doesn’t expand, so it pushes out one of the older ones.

      • Lacedaemon

        That’s exactly what is happening, better said.

    • FoolOfATook

      I can also confirm tab previews via the drop down menu is inconsistent.

  • Dziple

    Please just instead of saving everything to the disk insert run in the downloads. I really miss that feature. And add Shift + Enter for .net like Control + Enter for .com :)

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Run also saves to the disk, it just uses a temporary folder .

      • Dziple

        Yes but I don’t need to delete it manually after that… All those online installers you just use them once. Save them on desktop install then delete from desktop. Run -> Install 😀

        • Herr Pietrus

          And all these PDF files that cannot be opened automatically via internal PDF viewer… All this docs opened only once and not needed…

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Oh yes, on both cases the file will stand there for a long(?) time and many people wouldn’t even know where to find those files.

          Anyway, i’m not against such option.

  • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

    I’m transfering my profile from OBeta to OStable, I know I shouldn´t downgrade but I just can’t figure out the reason OStable stopped working the way it’s supposed to work and became all sluggish and impossible to use. So I will transfer and wait for O25 Stable, update and see what happens. Otherwise I would have to reconfigure from scratch, which I’m too lazy to do.

    • FoolOfATook

      So you’re downgrading from Beta to Stable, because Stable has issues? Wut? Also, no need to ever reconfigure from scratch, Just copy config files and bookmarks and whatever else you would like, from one Opera install to the next.

      Dunno about the freeze though. *shrugs*

      • http://www.facebook.com/hector.maciasayala Hector Macias Ayala

        That’s cute!! Just what I did, and yes Stable is giving me a very hard time, and yes I already know that shouldn’t be done that way. I’ll wait to O25 to be “stable”.

        Just copy the config files? hahaha, you must be new.

        • FoolOfATook

          …..Wut? What is that supposed to mean? From what you’re saying, it sounds like Stable is giving you troubles, so you downgraded to Stable from Beta. ?????

          And I might be new, but at least I know what I’m talking about. You just seem to like to spew out bullshit.

          • Marcin Mitek

            He just did what is strongly not recommended. I’ll leave this comment as a good example that if we ask you not to do something – we really mean DO NOT do it :)

          • FoolOfATook

            I still don’t really know what he’s saying. I’m assuming he meant to say that Opera Beta was giving him troubles so ghe downgraded from that to Stable. But what he’s actually saying is that Stable gave him troubles, so he downgraded from Beta (which he said nothing about) to Stable, the version that he said he had troubles with. That doesn’t make any sense. And then he’s spewing insults as well.

          • Marcin Mitek

            He moved the beta profile to stable. BOOM (clap).

          • FoolOfATook

            Ohhh wait, that’s not a good idea is it? There are probably intercompatibility issues between the profiles of the different versions…?

    • Marcin Mitek

      Well, at least you cannot say that we didn’t warn you. We really don’t encourage to mix the profiles, there are reasons why we keep them separate.

      I did it by accident couple of times by juggling profiles, testing autoupdate etc. Good times, good times 😉

  • taneli

    How do you move several selected items in Bookmarks to another folder at one time? I can see the items being “checked” but can only move them one at a time.

    Edit: Also, can the share feature be made to show the images i have in the Bookmarks, i just get the same Domainname-image on all of them, instead of the ones i chose for them.

    • Lacedaemon
    • L33t4opera

      How do you move several selected items in Bookmarks to another folder at one time?

      Hi Taneli, please have a look here (it works form me on Linux, and Windows, I have not checked this yet on Mac).

      • taneli

        Oooh, okay, Ctrl+X works, but not dragging, okay, cheers.

        • FoolOfATook

          They actually broke Ctrl+X in one of the builds. It was kinda hilarious. Stable build too actually.

  • Farhan Rashid

    Problem: I am not using opera from default profile location. currently opera is my default browser, so when I try to open an link from any other application it opens another opera instance from default profile folder, and it doesn’t redirect to already running instance of opera.

    • ahoj1234

      It is not about default location but about default browser. Set the browser as default one or assign http/https protocol with the opera (in Windows settings).

  • Bruno Machado

    Please, include drop down arrow in address bar…

  • taneli

    I just had every tab crash on one domain when pressing Ctrl+F (also crashed one other page not on that domain (Opera’s BM share page).
    Also happened 2 times already today, again: Pressing Ctrl+F changes the tab.
    Has been happening since… O17 or O18, not so very often though, but 2 times today.

  • Herr Pietrus

    Still no changes, expected by so many devoted users… Minor and simple – I suppose… damn, I’m almost sure they are simple to carry out! Fixes in SD and bookmarks (thumbnails, heart menu behaviour, too big coast tiles and thumbnails, recently closed button, bookmarks menu button on the toolbar…)
    It’s really sad. As a few other users I’m starting to think that you don’t listen to our suggestions and remarks and don’t take them into consideration. It’s sad, because many of our ideas relates to small fixes that can make new and already existing Opera’s features better. Dozens of people repeat the same requests for small, but actually essential things and believe that you’ll finally give them to us but you seem to claim you know better what we need… It’s really sad.

  • Herr Pietrus

    Damn, and you still didn’t fix flash players! Oh god…

    • taneli

      Indeed, mucha problems with PPAPI and NPAPI (Different problems, but still there).

      • Herr Pietrus

        Yea, but I’ve already noticed that Flash 15 at least fix the problem with focus/blinking controls. Finally :)

  • taneli

    I saw someone’s screenshot of FireFox here a while ago that was made to look like Opera, can’t find it anymore, any help on finding it or how to get FF to look like Opera?

    • Wraith

      Maybe you are talking about the Speed Dial in Firefox like Opera, if so: the extension is called: Superstart

      • taneli

        No no, someone had the whole “Opera Look” in FF somewhere in here, with some nice features, not just SpeedDial.

        • FoolOfATook

          Go look in the Firefox extensions catalogue.

    • ruduh

      Is this one like screen below? If yes, this extension is called FVD Speed Dial: Speed dial button, Online Synchronization, New Tab
      Start Page, Organize bookmarks, Custom backgrounds, custom dials,
      organized groups, most visited dials.
      The most customizable SD ever!!!

      • Lacedaemon

        So FF can have awesome SD images as the alternative to site preview thumbails but Opera must have the stupid text links as SD icons like we are in 1995… WTF….

  • Daniel Kit

    Bookmark sharing??
    When sync doesn’t work on bookmarks yet????

    Why????

    • Leonardo Gomes

      Because they are unrelated things? So the fact that there is no sync yet doesn’t prevent the release of bookmarks sharing?

    • Herr Pietrus

      In Poland there was a well-known advert of one of the banks with Leo Benhakker a few years ago… It goes like this:
      “Leo, why?!”
      “For money!”

      But Opera is free :)

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      So you can share them with your other Opera instance 😛

  • ForsakenFx

    Not only did this update have nothing important for most of your user base, but it seems you have a major bug that prevents the browser from actually being used.

    I restarted my computer and opened up Opera, and now every tab (Speed Dial, Settings, Extensions, Google etc) all appear as a black page. I also cannot use a private window to check if it is an extension causing the problem because then browser just crashes completely.

  • Guest

    Bugs… on drop down menu… the list not represent the actual tabs opening, only half is display… bro teams… windows 7 professional latest version opera!

  • Khairul Skmt

    The opera drop down list of tab menu not function properly… only shown the half opened tabs on opera!
    windows 7 professional…. latest version opera!

    • Leonardo Gomes

      How many tabs are opened?

      • Khairul Skmt

        too many bro, may be 30++ but on tab menu only list half about it…. have a scrollbar but can not scroll down to end of the list…

        • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

          work in progress 😉

          • Khairul Skmt

            request the dev teams hope to make another section on the tab menu to list recently closed of tabs!

        • Leonardo Gomes

          It seems ok here with ~56 tabs.

          • Khairul Skmt

            My bad it seems if i fresh install it seem works properly.

  • rajamsa

    When do we get Side panel functionality for bookmarks?

    … Still using Opera v12.17, because New Opera’s bookmarks are not up to task.

    rajamsa
    FINLAND

    • Herr Pietrus

      Almost certainly we’ll never get side panel. It would be better if you start complaining about something that we don’t have but it’s still possible to get.

      • rajamsa

        Why do you think getting a side panel is out of the question?

        • Herr Pietrus

          Because many other things which seem to be easier to do are currently impossible. :) And because with new bookmark manager and without bookmarks tree outside the O-menu, RSS/email, contacts, notes and download manager that side panel will be completely useless. What to you want to put in there?

          • rajamsa

            My main use for side panel is for accesing bookmarks and administering them.
            I have extremely large bookmark collection 10000+.

            Currently new Opera does not offer suitable tools for administering and using large bookmark collection.

            rajamsa
            FINLAND

          • rufu2

            > What to you want to put in there?

            1. Bookmark panel. No reason why it could not coexist well with a large view in the main window.
            2. Tabs/ Windows panel
            3. Downloads
            4. Dragonfly / Inspector / Info panel

            5. Links panel (could be part of 4)
            6. History
            7. Show a website in the panel (Wikipedia, newspaper,…)
            8. Discover stream and native RSS
            9. Space for extensions (RSS if not native, Notes if not native, Meta-Searches,…)

            10. Taskmanager, Opera settings, flags, etc

            100. For the all new Opera Xtended Suite, expected between 2020 and 2040: a native Mail client :-)

      • rajamsa

        Why do you think getting side panel is impossible?

      • rufu2

        I haven’t heard a definite “No” from anyone at Opera about that. So I still believe reminding the team of this uniquely useful feature will someday make it a priority.

      • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

        And why, exactly, would it be impossible to get a bookmark side panel?

    • L33t4opera

      Hi, regarding “Side panel functionality for bookmarks”, you can try the “Tidy Sidebar” extension – to install it, you need install first one of the extensions: “Extension source viewer“, or “Download Chrome Extension“.

      • rajamsa

        Thank you for the tip.
        L33t4opera

        I Tried ‘Tidy Sidebar’.

        But …
        It lacks the finess of old Operas Side Panel.
        – you can access it from every tab by clicking LH edge
        – and hide it by clicking LH edge again

        I might start using new Opera if ‘Tidy Sidebar’ proves to have enough functionality to use and administer my 10,000+
        bookmark collection.

        rajamsa
        FINLAND

        • L33t4opera

          You can press Alt+A, to switch the Tidy’s sidebar on, or off.

          • rajamsa

            Thank you once again for the
            keyboard shortcut tip.
            L33t4opera

            rajamsa
            FINLAND

      • rufu2

        Thanks for the tip.
        It’s a very ambitious extension, but it shows why native is better:
        e.g., it resized my browser window, but both the panel and the main window were partially outside of the screen.

        There’s also a noticable delay when resizing or dragging.

        Will still play a bit more with this, thank you.

  • Davide Monge

    When the import/export feature will be available i’ll consider to migrate. I think that one of the most important function needed to other browser users is the import of their bookmarks. I don’t know why this feature is still missed.

    • Herr Pietrus

      It’s too hard to develop for current opera employees…

  • Laga Mahesa

    Well, bugger me sideways. I no longer have access to my bookmarks. Thanks, Opera. This new share gimmick is really useful.

    • FoolOfATook

      I’m assuming you’re not actually being serious with complaining that there are bugs on the dev build, but in case you are, it’s a dev build lol.

      • Laga Mahesa

        Heh yeah, not really. I just woke up and realized I was a bit too harsh. Had a bad day yesterday, should have stayed away from my computer when I got home.

        • FoolOfATook

          Ah, okie then.

  • Łukasz Darzki

    Opera really need 1.5 GB of RAM to open 4 tabs? InDesign is taking less…

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I guess it depends on tabs’ contents.

      • Łukasz Darzki

        DuckDuckGo main site, Opera blog (this site) and main page of my company. Yep, this definitely need whole 12 processes and 800 MB of RAM to process. Just like I normally use water cooled drill to open envelope. I can just hope this to be optimalized one day. Like in one year from this day, or so.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          With DDG, this blog and Facebook opened Opera is using ~450MB here including the memory usage for the browser itself and excluding the menory usage for extensions.

          With them included, iy uses around 500MB.

          You can use Opera’s task manager to see which tabs/Extensions are using more memory.

      • al_ghul

        not only, also when I’ve opened lot of tabs earlier and closed them, leaving only several – the memory still seems filled with previous content. and this was happenning in earlier version as well.

    • ruduh

      4GB of ram is not enough for heavy users, many tabs open, many extensions installed, etc. Chromium-based browsers are voracious eaters of resources, then who has a PC/Notebook older or weak can forget Opera, Chrome… :( And don’t forget also that Chromium-based browsers are killing your laptop battery:
      http://www.forbes.com/sites/ianmorris/2014/07/14/googles-chrome-web-browser-is-killing-your-laptop-battery/

  • rufu2

    Ceterum censeo: Side panel and configurable default search engines, please :)

    • FoolOfATook

      I believe they are tied by agreement to use only those search providers that you see. So, that’s something you’re going to have to just live without.

      • Joana Silva

        +1…

        • FoolOfATook

          Perhaps. But search engine on start page about:home is locked into Google.

  • http://www.lalaurette.com.ar/ Sebastián Lalaurette

    I don’t know if the change about the mouse wheel events has anything to do with it, but this release started messing up very badly with my Genius wireless mouse. I thought it was broken, because Opera usually refuses to recognize middle-clicks (ie, wheel clicks). Maybe the fix broke something for me?

  • FoolOfATook

    Not sure if this has been reported yet, but in this version of Opera, the O-menu gets hidden sometimes as a result of Opera not rearranging its interface elements properly when maximizing.

    http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2014/09/opera-developer-update-26-introduces-bookmarks-sharing/#comment-1605518645

    Screenshot is there. Ignore the CPU usage/performance thing, I know it’s a known issue.

  • Guest

    More problems.

  • BarskeKjekken

    Local network adresses doesn’t seem to work on this update. Like Airdroid on android with adresses like: http://192.168.1.210:8888 ect.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      No problems here, i can access both my router and my modem which have addresses starting with 192.168.

      Make sure that Turbo is disabled as it can’t access local network.

      • BarskeKjekken

        Seemed to fixed it, didn’t know it was turned on ^^ Thanks. But then there is an error with turbo and local network addresses then.

        • Leonardo Gomes

          Since Turbo is an external proxy/server, it can not access your local network addresses unless you redirect your router/computer ports.

  • Freon

    freon@singed:/home/www$ opera-developer
    ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.
    Segmentation fault
    freon@singed:/home/www$ ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.
    ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.
    ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.

    freon@singed:/home/www$ uname -a
    Linux singed 3.13.0-36-generic #63-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 3 21:30:07 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

    Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

    • L33t4opera

      Hi, press Ctrl+Alt+T (to open a terminal window), and enter: cd ~/.config/opera-developer, press enter, and then type: sed -i ‘s/tab-menu@1/tab-menu@2/’ Local State, and see if it helps.

      • Freon

        That fixed it! Thanks!
        I still get “ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.”

        and when I open the start page – “[0929/084549:ERROR:CONSOLE(434)] “Window with no dimensions”, source: opera://startpage/speeddiallayout.js (434)”

        but it works

  • Lacedaemon

    Flash taskbar icon is back :) (Win7)

  • duhduhduh0

    honestly bookmarks sharing is an innovation

  • Anonimo

    what the heck is with that speed dial! http://sta.sh/0bt8dx0hv6c No more thumbs? No titles? Favicon and thats it?

    • FoolOfATook

      Why so many? Like holy

      • Anonimo

        Because why not? With screenshots it was neat :) Now not even title :/ Just HUGE favicon…

        • FoolOfATook

          Yeah… they didn’t really think this one through did they? You can still use the old startpage though, although I don’t know how long they’re going to keep that around.

          • Lacedaemon

            If they don’t keep the thumbnail SD then for me it is bye bye Opera…

          • FoolOfATook

            Seriously? Sad to hear that. In any case if that’s the case, then you should tell them that. (Although, we kinda already have)

  • noopera

    I have a lot of people shy bookmarks are you fucking kidding me Bookmarks sharing??!

  • noopera

    I use opera are only two reasons a freedom of mouse gestures and convenient sidebar bookmarks and RSS This is why the new version of the reasons I do not opera

  • noopera

    opera team your are lost!lost!

  • Helder
  • taneli

    Been wondering, why on my own machine, imgur.com stops working after browsing enough images, need to close the tab and go back, and start browsing again.
    Now with my moms laptop, dev build, i can only watch 1-2 pages in there and it stops working.
    Some memory thing?

    • Lacedaemon

      Happened to me as well in a similar situation. Open >60 photos and watch browser crash.

      Yep, just tested it with imgur.com. Opening one picture after another with middle click (in the background) until you surpass 60 pictures crashes the browser. W7x64, 6GB RAM, 1GB VRAM.

      • ruduh

        Same with me, browser crash when I try to open many photos.
        Win7x64, 8GB RAM, 1GB VRAM.

      • Leonardo Gomes

        I was able to open 100 pictures from imgur without any issues.

        • Lacedaemon

          Maybe because you have >8 GB RAM and a 16GB pagefile?

          • Leonardo Gomes

            Hmm, i have exactly 8GB of RAM. And the page file is at 1280MB atm.

    • Leonardo Gomes

      I’ve just opened 100 pics from that site without any problems.

  • Kasper Trans Nielsen

    Bookmark share is a neat idea. Good one Opera!

  • ruduh

    LOL, a LATRINE right in the middle of my SD? I guess with the new layout of SD is much more difficult to locate a site without a specific thumbnail/logo relate to the site. First screen, the new thumbnail/latrine of site. Second screen old and more “acceptable” thumbnail of the same site.

    • taneli

      Yeah…
      First they had the Coast like thumbnails (Favicon etc.), was usable
      Second they had the new colored tiles with domain names only, weeeeelll… still kinda usefull if you didn’t have many SD items, since they had color presentation of the said site…
      Aaaand then couple months ago they went full retard with it and started serving those tiles with colors that has nothing to do with the said site, seriously, my 8 SD items on this machine, are colored with something that you can’t even find on the sites.
      Blue background image, blue favicon, black/blue theme on the site becomes a pink SD icon… why.

  • Snow of March

    I can not download offline installer for windows latest 2 updates. Opera says that waiting for operasoftware.pc.cdn.bitgravity.com… I did not change any security settings on my Windows. Auto-update worked fine. What happened?

    • ruduh

      When I try download offline installer of Opera Beta(links at the rights above), a window with a message “Invalid certificate” of the server appears.
      :(

      • Leonardo Gomes

        Not happening here.

    • Lacedaemon
      • Snow of March

        Thanks a lot! Download is completed with no problem.

  • Anonimo

    Speed Dial thumbs were nice but what is it now, you remove that, what about titles?

  • Vux777

    in all recent chromiums jsfiddle is broken

  • ma_t14

    Browsing some sites brings Opera to a crawl after while e.g.
    http://www.expeditelectronics.com
    http://www.probuilds.net (nsl issue)

  • beBoss

    Can you help me to install and test Opera on Kali Linux?

    When I try to install Opera Developer it gives me something like this “dependency libc6 >=2.15” but mine is 2.13.

    What can I do to run it, because I tried with Google Chrome and installed without problems.

  • hafasd

    It’s getting more and more usable. Still missing Bookmark Bar in the address bar (where the extensions icons are located).

  • pytajnik

    yay bookmarks sharing, how awesome… when you’re going to bring back the sync? is it even going to happen or you just really badly want your browser to die?

  • Oskar

    Hi! Flash is working really bad for me and has been doing that for a great while. Strange since I always update to the newest version of both Flash and Opera.

    Videos such as those in the bottom of http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/what-we-learned–the-self-inflicted-idiocy-of-david-clarkson-080636708.html
    don’t even come close to be playing.

    Also listening excercises on https://www.duolingo.com/ doesn’t work at all (but the microphone works great).

    Hope you fix so that this works without a go-around and also come with a go-around solution for me=) Thanks for your time!

    • https://christoph142.wordpress.com/ Christoph142

      Have you tried using the newer PPAPI version already, too?
      You can get it here: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer.html (currently in beta)

      • Oskar

        I tried it now. Works a little worse on duolingo, don’t know what’s up with that page, great for learning languages but sound would help. Other videos seems a little bit improved. Thanks for the help!

  • Ralf Brinkmann

    Everything on this page http://www.nation.sc/ moves very slow and choppy, including scrolling through the articles. With Google Chrome and Firefox it’s smooth and fast.

  • Lacedaemon

    Per site preferences in Chrome… Opera?

    • Lacedaemon

      Too advanced, users might be confused… I get it…

  • Cjcr

    No new release yet today? :(

    • Lacedaemon

      Yeah and what about that security update?

  • Кostadin

    Opera earning over a million dollars a day in revenue = more love for Desktop? :)

  • Ghirahim

    It’s Friday. New build? :3

  • Dmitry Kirin

    And the usability things go again:

    1. On the Bookmarks page, the section My Folders is a certain lie, because I didn’t create them. Absence of context (right-click) menu for them creates a false impression that I can’t do anything with them, which is, obviously, not so.

    2. Bookmark list items can be selected. What I think: cool, now I can select multiple items and move them to a folder, copy as a plain-text list to clipboard, or delete them all at once. What happens in reality: the only supposed continuation to selecting items is sharing. (The last thing I’d need, honestly, though that’s just me.)

    3. A zero-day usability fail with Bookmark bar: clicking the header of an already opened folder closes it and opens again. It makes bookmark sorting much more difficult. In addition, I fail to see any reason for that re-opening after it has been closed.

    With all my sincere interest to the new things you are inventing, I don’t see sharing cats as a really topical question at the moment, compared to creating a truly fluid UI.

  • taneli

    Is it just me or are the dev releases coming further and further apart than before (?).

    Some more youtube/flash gringe:
    – NPAPI Flash -> Causes Opera to go shy, won’t come in front of other windows anymore.
    – PPAPI Flash -> Can’t remember some settings (such as sound level) on youtube, a bit more crashing with it too.
    – HTML5 video -> Can’t pause the video or the page needs a reload to continue loading.

    Aaaand nope, not all that much a youtube problem, other browsers aren’t such a pain in the ass with Youtube, i can atleast watch videos with them.

    Also, clicking on the embedded videos “youtube” button (which opens the video in it’s youtube page) won’t remember cookies -> requires a refresh of the page for it to log in.
    And this also works in other browsers just fine, also in O21, where actually, NPAPI flash has no issues either, O21 is still the last working version, sadly.

  • Cidel Fastro

    I’ll spare you the laundry list of complaints and just point out this:

    If Opera is closed while in a windowed mode, it will never open maximized even if the last time it was closed it was(maximized).

    Trying to use the bookmarks manager as a start page results in a blank page while the tab indicates that the BM is open.

    I consider the heart icon a bug for anyone who is anything other than a prepubescent girl

  • Quasar6

    Can you change bing’s url in search engine managers from http to https?

  • Cjcr

    Nothing yet in two weeks :( Maybe they are adding support for another theme (flowers in the garden or something like this)

  • BlB

    It’s time for new snapshot with export/import bookmarks abilities as well as with a possibility to choose the folder/path of the new bookmark. PLEASE NOTICE – there is already an extension which exports/imports the bookmarks (BOOKMARKS). BIG shame for developers to not offer an natural decision!

  • Cidel Fastro

    If the bookmarks manager is selected to be the start page, most times (but not all) it will display a blank page in spite of the the tab saying “bookmarks” in the tab

  • Spotter

    Further development abandoned! Opera software will fully concentrate on mobile market. Desktop browsers are “dying dinosaurs, much too complicated” they say.

  • L33t4opera

    New Opera dev 26.0.1646.0, the change log, and the announcement 😉

    • Vux777

      blog article is gone

      • L33t4opera

        It’s not published yet :)

      • Lacedaemon

        “Import bookmarks and settings” (Chrome, O12, HTML, IE) & “Synchronize” in Menu

  • Dave-H

    Not auto updating here yet.

  • Oskar

    Hi, nice update!
    Just want to report that the page crashes constantly when editing spreadsheets in google docs. Never seen that before and I have not changed anything on my pc since updating.

  • kakkerlak

    Such a shame! Went through 8 version numbers and still:
    Dual monitor support is a mess! Try to pull 1 tab to the other monitor and both the new window session and the original window with the other opened tabs goes over, furthermore the supposedly active tab I just pulled over is the inactive behind the original window session. It is working properly in 12.xx and before!
    Tab grouping, hallo!!! Basics…
    Tab bar cannot be moved (to the bottom of the windows close to windows taskbar, the main reason why i’m still on v12)
    No customization in general, no toolbars, nothing! Bookmark bar can’t be put vertically on the side. Totally unacceptable! (In v12 I have my special bookmark icon for my router and torrent webgui next to the trashcan for quick access, how can I have something like that back on the tab bar? I know no way…)
    Good old easy access history, bookmarks, rss, downloads. Not even to mention the Notes! Extraordinary invention why is it gone???
    Finally got bookmarks, but where the heck is export/import function??? Must be a joke…
    urlfilter.ini ??? Is there a function replacing this function?
    Block content on a page with right click, or any other way?

    And I didn’t go into any depth… used to be the most customizable browser now it’s just another chrome clone, just a bit worse. I smell conspiracy behind this big uniformization of the browsers, but I might be a bit paranoid… :)

    • Dave-H

      The latest developer version 26.0.1632.0 does finally have a proper import facility, but I’m feeling what you say on the rest!
      No-one yet knows just how far they will go to restoring the customability of Opera 12 to the new versions, but you can be sure that it will never be quite the same I’m afraid.

      • kakkerlak

        I’m on “26.0.1646.0 up to date” and I swear I can’t find the proper import facility! I did import i got everything dumped into the “imported bookmarks” but on the left panel there is no tree structure visible, the bookmarks are scrambled not even the folders are at the top. It’s totally unusable in this form. Top on that I happened to create a New Folder what I can’t rename either delete from this panel but only if I use top left Opera button>bookmarks and there left-click. This isn’t proper neither would I call it facility or anything like that. Like no one has made a bookmark manager before, you know what I mean? 😀 (opera 12 is the best bookmark management ever)

        • Dave-H

          Sorry, the latest developer version is indeed 26.0.1646.0, my mistake!
          If you look under settings there should be an option in the “default browser” section to “import bookmarks and settings”.
          If it’s not there, check opera flags for a “Import browser data” option, which should be enabled by default.
          opera://flags/#import-browser-data

          • PaulW

            I’ve just installed this release at home but can’t find this entry..

          • PaulW

            Looks like the version I installed wasn’t the latest. It just updated.. I now see the import bookmarks and settings but the Opera 12 settings import is missing

          • Dave-H

            Right!
            Unfortunately for some bizarre reason import from Opera 12 isn’t included!
            I guess they think the importer that’s always been there will do that anyway, although as we all know it’s very far from being straightforward to get it to work sometimes.
            You can export the Opera 12 bookmarks as HTML and import that presumably.

          • PaulW

            On this dropbox link is the import screen shot from Opera 26 installed on my work PC that shows the Opera 12 import. Not sure why it isn’t there on my home install. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/15032525/Opera%2026%20import.jpg

          • Vux777

            I don’t have dev version right now installed, so I’m only guessing…
            Maybe your Opera 12 installation is USB or profile folder is not on default location, so O26 on your home PC can’t recognize it

          • PaulW

            My one at work is installed on a Win XP 32 bit PC and at home on a win 7 64 bit PC. I think that the Opera 12 there is also 64 bit..

          • PaulW

            Ok. I ran up my work laptop with Win 7 32 bit and Win 10 64 bit both partitions running Opera 12.17. Installed Opera _Developer_26.0.1646.0 on both OSs and they both auto imported all items from Opera 12 on first start up. Guess when I get home I’ll use revo uninstaller and completely remove opera 26 and try again.. I’ll also try on my Win 10 partition at home as well.

          • Dave-H

            That’s what I would expect it to do, and you may well find that it will do the same at home. I would be interested to know if the import from Opera 12.x option then disappears from the import options!
            BTW I replied to you after you posted the screenshot, but my reply seems to have now disappeared even though it was there when I reviewed it!
            Did you actually see it?

          • PaulW

            Hi Dave. I can see your reply. Yes the option to import from Opera 12.x is still there after the import.. Now if only i can figure out how to make this version open full screen..

          • Dave-H

            Strange, I still can’t see it!
            Another Disqus anomaly I suspect.
            I wonder why I don’t have the option to import from Opera 12.
            There have been other reports of people not being able to open this version maximized.
            The current blog for the latest version is here, this one is now out of date, so that is where you should ask about it.
            http://www.opera.com/blogs/desktop/2014/10/opera-developer-bookmark-syncing-and-native-macos-popover-dialogs

          • PaulW

            Thanx for the link. I think the reason that I and others have posted here as it’s the only thread that includes the words opera 26 :-)

          • Dave-H

            Indeed, I wish the Opera guys would name their blogs a bit more intuitively.
            When there’s a new version someone normally posts about it and gives a link to the changelog and the new blog.

          • PaulW

            Hi Dave. Last post here. I sorted the problems at home by backing up the Bookmarks, Speedial and wand files. Using revo to remove both versions of O12 and O26 , manually deleting all directories for Opera. Reinstalling O12 and copying the above files back, Installing O26 and it all came up correctly with all the O12 settings. The original problem seems to have been that Opera 12 was a 64 bit install to the OperaNext directories. Just hope that future releases of 26 and later still import from the Opera that is set as default..

          • Dave-H

            Glad you sorted it out Paul!
            :-)

          • Dave-H

            That is very strange!
            The 12.x option isn’t there on my installation.
            I can only think that’s because it knows that it’s already been done, but that actually stops you doing it again, which isn’t terribly sensible!

          • Dave-H

            Thanks very strange!
            You’re sure it’s version 26.1646.0 you’ve got?
            What happens if you put “opera://flags/#import-browser-data” into the address bar and go to it?

      • kakkerlak

        Getting worse…

        Can’t get rid of “My Folders” folder and can’t get any folder to the same root level… anything goes under my folders giving an extra totally unnecessary level of folders… why??? I can’t believe this really. Like a bunch of newborns never seen a web browser before!

  • tom5345

    I have installed neptun on my computer and opera detects is:
    MeadCo’s Neptune
    Versjon: 2, 0, 0, 29
    Slå av
    Plassering:C:PROGRA~2MeadCo Neptunenpmeadax.dllType:NPAPIMIME-typer:MIME-typeBeskrivelseFilendelserapplication/x-meadco-neptune-axMeadCo Neptune.ax

    Now i want to use it :), how can i load it when opera dosent support adding buttons?

  • PaulW

    Just started to look at Opera 26 as it seems that opera 12.17 is no longer compatible with Google + and YouTube. To my surprize I found that it allowed me to import all the Opera 12 setting, passwords and speed dials and they work. A couple of things I can’t sort. How do i get back to the Home page without restarting the browser and is it possible to have a URL history drop down like O12 has?? Apart from that it seems quite usable though being based on Chrome browser I have found if has a compatibility issue n with the webserver on the PBX systems that we sell.
    Thanx in advance..

    • PaulW

      Hmm. I just installed the same version at home and none of the above options are available.. More research needed.

      • PaulW

        Sort of sorted it. See discussion below

  • Dave-H

    There is no “home” button or address bar dropdown I’m afraid.
    They have been requested!

  • Wanderlei

    How about import/export, dipshits. Fuck new Opera is hopeless.

    • Dave-H

      If you’d bothered to check before ranting you would have discovered that the latest Opera developer build 26.0.1646.0 does have an import function!
      No export function as yet though…….

  • Chip

    I don’t understand that Sync improvement.
    On my notebook I am using Opera Developer 26.
    On my Android smartphone I use Opera Beta (Version 25).

    How can I see the bookmarks which I added on my notebook on my android?

    Thanks in advance about a timely response!

    • Leonardo Gomes

      You can’t as Opera Mobile for Android still doesn’t have sync.

      For now sync works between two Opera developer 26 for desktops only.

      • Chip

        Leonardo, thank you very much for your fast answer!
        I already went almost crazy, ‘coz I didn’t realize why it didn’t work properly… :/

        But is it planned to implant SYNC for Android as well???
        If yes, do someone know when???

        • Leonardo Gomes

          I think so but have no idea when.

  • pst007x

    I use Ubuntu, and I would love to use this as default, but they really need to add the ability to import bookmarks from other browsers. There is an Import Folder, but no way to add anything to it, hopefully they will soon add this feature…

    Nice browser though…

  • Helmut Schmidt

    Hi!
    I just installed Opera 26 because I was searching for a faster browser without the data stealing tools like chrome has. But i got some big problems with Opera:

    1. Is there no real bookmark management? I imported hundreds of bookmarks from chrome and wanted to put them in matching folders instead of leaving them all crumped in the ‘importet bookmarks’ folder. But: is there no regular bookmark management, where I could move multiple bookmakrs at once? And why are bookmarks so huge? I got so many, it even gets worse with such huge Icons and text. I am NOT blind!

    2. Next I tried activating the sync function. I created one opera link account and logged in. On the website it says i should watch out for the ‘cloud’ icon at the lower left in the browser’s window for áctivating bookmark sync – but: there is no cloud icon. Indeed there is no icon at all at the lower left.

    Thank you,

    regards